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Thread: Paladin? Heck we are the next Bard. :/

KJFett3
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:11 am
#1

Maybe we can get a harp to strum or a trumpet to play.


We have lost our "leader" and become just some goon in a group giving buffs like a doc.


No offense to the docs, but your title doesn't have the word "leader" in it.


Which brings up another issue. Why don't we ask to be called something other than Squad Leader now...since we wont be leading any squads.



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LiakyK
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:13 am
#2

Squad Buffers!



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MikDiBoken
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:34 am
#3

I Think they should make it so some of the SL Abilities work without being leader, but for most you have to be the leader, then it would work for both the people that want SL to be Leader while still having more than 1 SL in the group, Like if there was a Lieutenant and a Sergeant in a Squad, the Lieutenant would be the assigned Leader but the Sergeant would still use their experience in Leadership to benefit the group.



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Zekk-
Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:17 pm
#4

not needed to be leader is great, you no longer have to deal with people telling you who to invite, how to set loot etc. You can just play the proffesion.



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KJFett3
Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:35 pm
#5






Zekk- wrote:
not needed to be leader is great, you no longer have to deal with people telling you who to invite, how to set loot etc. You can just play the proffesion.





Yeah! You are no longer the leader! doesn't that just ROXOR! Our new title shall be Squad Goons.


/endsarcasm



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AlienEntity
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:28 pm
#6

To All Thoughs Who are Complaining:

If nothing changes, I am holding strong to my ways, if someone demands that I set loot a certain way I'll kick them. If they demand this or that, again I'll kick them. I'm a bit miffed right now with a lot and a lot having to do with having more than 1 sl in a group. I'm playing a leader not a Squad Goon or Squad Groupie. I chose a position of leadership because that is what I've played in many games. Intentional or not. Somehow I always ended up being Leader. 1 SL per group and you have to be Group Leader to apply buffs. That is the way to fix all the whining and moaning about it. Going back to what it was before this. If you want to group up with me I'm taking lead or you're taking lead and I'm following AS group leader. I've been group leader before following other peoples lead. Just because you're group leader doesn't mean you actually know what's going on. Just because you say you know how to do this or that, doesn't mean you know how to play with others. There's a fine line and if you and anyone else don't like it, tough, get out of my group and don't let the SBD kill ya on the way out. That's my personal opinion and I know a lot of TRUE SQUAD LEADERS will agree with me.



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Fordep
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:50 am
#7






MikDiBoken wrote:

I Think they should make it so some of the SL Abilities work without being leader, but for most you have to be the leader, then it would work for both the people that want SL to be Leader while still having more than 1 SL in the group, Like if there was a Lieutenant and a Sergeant in a Squad, the Lieutenant would be the assigned Leader but the Sergeant would still use their experience in Leadership to benefit the group.





with the upcoming SL revamp you no longer have to be the leader.
The-Rogue
Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:43 am
#8






AlienEntity wrote:
To All Thoughs Who are Complaining:

If nothing changes, I am holding strong to my ways, if someone demands that I set loot a certain way I'll kick them. If they demand this or that, again I'll kick them. I'm a bit miffed right now with a lot and a lot having to do with having more than 1 sl in a group. I'm playing a leader not a Squad Goon or Squad Groupie. I chose a position of leadership because that is what I've played in many games. Intentional or not. Somehow I always ended up being Leader. 1 SL per group and you have to be Group Leader to apply buffs. That is the way to fix all the whining and moaning about it. Going back to what it was before this. If you want to group up with me I'm taking lead or you're taking lead and I'm following AS group leader. I've been group leader before following other peoples lead. Just because you're group leader doesn't mean you actually know what's going on. Just because you say you know how to do this or that, doesn't mean you know how to play with others. There's a fine line and if you and anyone else don't like it, tough, get out of my group and don't let the SBD kill ya on the way out. That's my personal opinion and I know a lot of TRUE SQUAD LEADERS will agree with me.





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Kakabus
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:46 am
#9

I think the only way to truly "balance" (dont you hate that word) the SL revamp is to make the group buffs from SL a skill only for the leaders of the group. The individual ones can be done if more than one SL is in the group. It looks like SL is now officially a support hoe...I wish they gave SL some combat moves and make it more "Combat Ready", but no luck...Now for the Commando and Smuggler revamps!
Reydon
Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:24 am
#10

I gota agree with Drex, it is really lame, I can see it now....


"Squad! Attack!

"Hey! That's my line!"

"No it isnt!"

"Yes it is, im the SL"

"So am I!"

"But this is my group!"

"Since when?"

<meanwhile a dumbo commando shoots an AoE Gun at a piket lair, all aggressive pikets>

"Since this group started!"

"Heck no! I was told I would be group leader as a Squad Leader!"

"Guess they were wrong!"

"It's my job to be leader!"

<4 people are now dead>

"I am the leader!"

"So am I!"

"We cant have 2 leaders"

"So let me be leader"

<2 more dead>

"Never!"

<SL 1 dies>

"Oh crap, we are under attack"

<SL 2 dies>




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cyrom
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:44 am
#11


i'm not making fun of anyone but, first of all making the SL even that if you don't knowhim is a plobem becuase he plobely don't know whatto do or run off.and the other reason was because if you have 2 SL in the group they can both ues they powers instead the one who is the group leader. and just becuase you are the group leader doesn't make you the leader. it jusat makes you able to invite people.



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Ackehece
Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:59 am
#12






cyrom wrote:


i'm not making fun of anyone but, first of all making the SL even that if you don't knowhim is a plobem becuase he plobely don't know whatto do or run off.and the other reason was because if you have 2 SL in the group they can both ues they powers instead the one who is the group leader. and just becuase you are the group leader doesn't make you the leader. it jusat makes you able to invite people.






but being group leader does allow you to remove idiots who can't follow direction. Also two chefs as they say spoil the broth. One SL gives Charge the other calls retreat... now you are left with retreat and no action pool and no mind pool. Better to have a good SL as leader then multiple bad SLs



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ColonelJalaan
Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:33 am
#13

What seems to bother people here, are the inability of people to work well in a group. And that inability you will find in grinding groups. And I actually don't think that the newsquad leaderchanges are done with grinding groups in mind. When I join a grinding group, I just keep silent, unless there is anything interesting to discuss in the group chat. When I lead a hunt party or anything else with my guild, I act as squad leader. For when I am out with my guild, focus is not on gaining as much xp as possible per second of game time. We go out to have fun together.


And in such a group, there is no problem at all in having more than one squad leader. One takes on the role as leader, the other one is second in command. That is how a military group works in real life, so why shouldn't it be able to do so in the game as well? If the leader gets killed, it must be clear who is going to assume command. And this person must also be a trained leader. Else the group won't work well.


So if you don't like these changes, don't be a squad leader. Or rather, try to find a group of people who will follow your lead.


And remember - Lead by example.


The Dream Team



  • Group Leader (Squadleader/carbineer)

  • Second in Command (Squadleader/carbineer)

  • Medic (Combat Medic/carbineer)

  • Sniper (Rifleman/Ranger)

  • Heavy Weapons (Commando)

  • Soldier (Carbineer)

  • Soldier (Carbineer)

  • Soldier (Carbineer)

All should at least be Novice Medics, to be able to heal one another in times of need.





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