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didnt even go far down the post but , man just play and have fun, if you are a skilled jedi you can still thump any bh/sl, lol

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MsNiL wrote:

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ColonelJalaan wrote:
Since that code 66 went into effect, the remaining jedis went into hiding. At least as far as I know. This is for sure not the fact with SWG jedis. They genreally act openly, even though the empire uses bounty hunters to track them down, and kill them. So in my eyes, the jedis can blame themselves for getting whacked. There are way too many jedis in this game. But do understand that every purchaser should have the same chance of attaining jedi-hood. I just think that as soon as a jedi show itself in public in a major settlement, imperial troops should be sent there to take it out.

But then we come to the bounty hunters. How many out there are bounty hunters on their main toon? and how many bounty hunters are in fact a jedi's alt toon? It would be interesting to see some numbers here.

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This is a bit off-topic, but... Each server have between 40-80 players who want to be the most powerful and feared player on the server. Theese players pick up what's considered the most powerful template available right now and obviously many of theese players have picked up Jedi and most likely they have a Bounty Hunter alt. They are also the first you see camping lootspots or camping on starports.

While theese individuals consists of less than 5% of the Jedi population, they still dictate the reputation of the entire community; thousands of Jedi who already try their best to stay out of sight. They dictate the population simply becouse they are seen, while they majority is not. Do you honestly believe that the few campers you see daily are all Jedi on your server?

Furthermore, theese individuals are the least effected by the current system meant to keep Jedi out of sight - the Visibility system. In fact, they even gain from it.
The Visibility system do not care if you are seen by 20 players and 4 stormtroopers right outside Theed Starport, or if you defeat 4 marouders that just attacked you on Endor.
Once on the terminal it takes 3 weeks to go "hidden" again, and no player want to keep out of the game for 3 weeks just becouse they defended themselves against 4 marouders.

Once on the terminal, you are in constant danger and need to be prepared 24/7. This means, Lightsaber in hand and force-macros running. At least Enhancers will shine like a christmastree, just to keep safe from sudden attacks.

Despite staying hidden. Despite trying their best to keep out of sight for other players. Despite unequipping their lightsaber and turning off Forcerun everytime they enter a city and everytime other players go near, they are still on the terminal after their first pve quest since all pve quests include a few NPC's that may die. They may have hated the empire, or not even know what the empire is,but still the event somehow reaches back to vader and effectively published on the BH terminal the very next second.

The tiny Jedi population you see likes to be hunted. They gain from behaving like they do, directly feeding upon the majority's reputation like vampires. Theese players wont change unless SoE change the Visibility system to FOCUS on punishing thoose who have nothing against proving their might in the middle of Theed. A Visibility system that stop an endless supply of Fame & Glory to thoose who truly want to "show off". A Visibility system that rewards thoose players who play their Jedi like a refugee and keep themselves out of sight in respect for other players and in respect of the nature of their profession(exiles & refugees). A Visibility system that do not work against it's own purpose.

The Visibility system do not represent our "Risk" that gives us our "Reward" (Great power). It represent the nature of Jedi as a Refugee. It's just so simple and narrowminded that it works against it's own purpose.

It's a shame that a few give a reputation to the majority, and are free to continue to do so.

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ColonelJalaan wrote:
SL-buffedBH vs. Jedi: Well as soon as the TEF comes in effect take away the SL buffs.

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If the BH system shall stay in game, this is the best solution, since it doesnt nerf real SquadLeaders at all.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-01-2005 12:57 PM

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From the Combat Upgrade document:

"BUFF BALANCE
Another system that has grown beyond original expectations are buffs. Currently players stats can be buffed so high that original character stats have no meaning, armor penalties are completely irrelevant and serious PvP combat cannot be considered without a full set of all available buffs."

You are trying to promote Squad Leaders as pre-cu Doctors and Entertainers here, and it speaks against the CU design. The sooner you bring this to the developers, they are going to nerf all your buffs. It's better to loudly give them the suggestion to remove SL buffs upon a BH TEF instead, becouse it wont effect you and it wont effect the way you play and the way SL is supposed to work.