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Thread: Squad Leader: Template Factory

GrievousAngel
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:28 pm
#92

Definitely retreat as it kills your mind. I've change my template since last I posted and can now say I've pair all three ranged professions with MSL. I am currently MSL/MRifles/CM3000/Scout2000 for the TN. Pistols simply did not provide enough firepower and kept me too close to the melee types in PVP where I would quickly find myself back home...er, in the cloner. I'd quickly go back to carbines if wookiee battle armor didn't make me look like an 8ft tall walking garbage can!



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Nowaak
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:16 am
#93

Nowaaak


MBH. MSL,CM 4000


Wookiee warrior


Its true with MSL, and CM your targeted in group pvp. I avoid this by not wearing my Proff tags. I am MSL, MBH, and cm 4000. All my proffs are big targets in group pvp. The jedi love to take out a Bounty Hunter, and everyone takes out the SL, and/or CM. I choose to stay true to BH and hide many things. This seems to help a bit. In group pvp people dont have much time to examine you and see what you really are lol.





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gailon24
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:07 pm
#94


Hmm a little contradiction! I'd lik e to flame the MSL/MCM versus MSL/MDoc debate!


I've been thinking Doc for the lower mind cost and buff to multiple stats (versus the SL limited buffing)


versus


CM getting more defense/offense with electrolyte drain and other debuffs.


Thoughts?



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GoldSquadGirl
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:59 pm
#95



LiakyK wrote:


GoldSquadGirl wrote:


LiakyK wrote:


captiansarcasmo wrote:
yes, i see my mdoc msl template becoming much better, really my affection for the dawnsorrow is what is conflicting with my mind bar. by the way if you choose this template the proper description of the hybrid post pub 24 is MJS.


Why not be MSL/MCM?





mind cost

SL drains your mind even more than healing, if that can be imagined


The only Mind drain I have as SL is Retreat.




noted
without meditate the mind regen is basically prohibitive on retreat



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Kraevac
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:58 am
#96

For those who are power hungry try this templet....MBH/MSL/CM Distance Healing 4


With this templete, you get all the benefits of grouping with MSL, plus weapons designed just for MSL, plus you can still act in a support role with distance healing, and to top it off you can still have all the advantages of MBH plus the weapons associated with that profession.


For added bonus...for those that like to base bust....you kill two profession requirements with one stone.


The downside is that you really are a target in group missions particularly if you are doing any healing and tanking at the same time so your armor will take a hammering. The hardest part of mastering both BH and SL is the large amount of Combat XP you have to have, but it is offset by the fact the you are just as leathal in solo as you are in a group. You also have to be careful with your mind pool, as using bacta throws or shots and any SL buffs will take its toll on you quickly. Although not impossible, but very dangerous, is using BH/SL/CM skills all at once...simply because your HAM bar will stay drown down as well as the hammering your amor is going to take.


I use this for myself and find rather fun in either groups or solo missions. It is a challenge to keep your HAM from becoming a tattered waste of uselessness as well. Overall, it is a very rewarding templete, with what I think to be the most versatile as well.


AlienEntity
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:01 pm
#97

By the end of my new template, I'll have 256 Rifle Accuracy and 121 Rifle Speed, Ranged Defense of 219 and Melee Defense of 130.



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Sylow
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:10 pm
#98

I run with MSL/MCarb and NoviceBE.The BH for basebusting you find cheaper in the dozen, the BE you find almost never. Anyways, despite sacrificing some points into BE, i tend to win most 1on1 even, as long as not standing up against Jedi.


And in group it's just pure fun. Full auto area as default, everything else is "tactical choice" and helping the team out by putting volley fire on the premium target.








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Loki_Ashaman
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:07 pm
#99

Recent testing has shown that your defense is determined by the weapon you are holding. So with a rifle, it would be your ranged defense + your rifle defense. That is your defense against everything, melee or ranged attacks.... Holding a sword, it would be your sword + melee defense against everything.


Logic would hold that your ranged defense would be against ranged attacks and your melee defense against melee... but I guess either the Devs know not logic or its bugged.






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lspiderl
Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:50 pm
#100


ok melee def is ur def vs melee ranged def is ur def vs ranged and ur weapon def adds to both


ie if i have 230 ranged def and 200 melee def and a pistol def of 50 then when i use a pistol i have ranged def 280 melee def 250





i am currently M pistols MBH sl 0404 and thourghly enjoy that after mods and tapes i have a melee def of 330 and ranged def 354 to which i can add food deulist stance and rally and im a HIGHLY effective ranged tank i have solo'd and tanked lvl 82 kryats and kimo's w/o kiteing or rooting just standing there tanking like a pro




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_scout_
Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:11 am
#101


lspiderl wrote:
ok melee def is ur def vs melee
ranged def is ur def vs ranged




meeep

- wrong

its like Loki said above.

Current testing in the game shows that:

    Melee Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Melee weapon equiped

    Ranged Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Ranged weapon equiped


This thread started as testing ground for the ranged food (to increase the defenses against ranged attack) which the jedi were experiencing as not working but while testing on this subject was done, they found out that the understanding of melee and ranged defense is totally different as we thought.

In my personal opinion I think this is a bug, and that during coding somebody mixed up two variables.


EDIT:
corrected link

Message Edited by _scout_ on 10-04-2005 10:28 AM

Message Edited by _scout_ on 10-04-2005 10:29 AM

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lspiderl
Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:51 pm
#102






_scout_ wrote:




lspiderl wrote:


ok melee def is ur def vs melee
ranged def is ur def vs ranged






meeep

- wrong

its like Loki said above.

Current testing in the game shows that:


    Melee Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Melee weapon equiped

    Ranged Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Ranged weapon equiped


This thread started as testing ground for the ranged food (to increase the defenses against ranged attack) which the jedi were experiencing as not working but while testing on this subject was done, they found out that the understanding of melee and ranged defense is totally different as we thought.

In my personal opinion I think this is a bug, and that during coding somebody mixed up two variables.











lol id like to know what your smoking considering since my melee def is LOWER than my ranged def i ALWAYS take more damaged from melee attacks which ive experiance in combat on a regular basis and as for the food there buggy atm and thats a known issue



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JeriksonDarkrunner
Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:35 am
#103

Master Carbs/MSL/Pistoleer 0004/Medic 0010


With HE shirt and Bandoleer at +47 HE on my char sheet I heal for 800ish+ every 6-7 sec, Roots/Snares for maximumthreat control and minimization. Some fairly strong AOE's and Some Pistoleer single target damage shots.


Fairly strong dabbler mixed temp, I think.


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_scout_
Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:35 am
#104

Nope sorry, I dont smoke but I admit I messed up the click .

Should be working now, but here it is again:

Discuss: Melee vs Ranged Defense

The mentioned statement:
    Melee Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Melee weapon equiped

    Ranged Defense is your Defense against Melee AND Ranged attacks when you have a Ranged weapon equiped

is from the tests the ppl did in that thread.






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