Squad Leader Archive

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HeadRoll wrote:

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Espo99 wrote:

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Shinky the Jediwrote:

We areALL whiney b!tches.

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sure sounds like you're crying to me

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QFE, just months earlier. Jedi forums were up in arms because Rangers were dropping Krayts quicker then them. They were actuallywhining for nerfs to traps because they actually working on krayts!! Surprised? Of course not.

Jedi are going down the list of professions to moan about, Squad leader happens to be next in line. Have fun while it lasts,

Message Edited by HeadRoll on 10-21-2005 01:29 PM

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As Rangers should. Why? cause they are (were, due to ranger revamp) Hunters. If any prof should be able to drop mobs, it should be Rangers. However, stuff like NightSisters, that's Jedi Territory. Ya wanna drop a kimogila, Send in a group of hunters, you want a base raid, why not a few jedi/ Commando's/ Squadleaders ( technicaly Squadleader / Commando / Combat medic, as war is their territiory).

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Ralyykk wrote:

Shinky,

Before any cry for nerf or a complaint is made about a profession that has anything to with being "ganked" as a jedi, I am of the opinion that the Jedi should first focus on staying off the BH terms. Being a bounty target carries a potential of your death, regardless of what flavor that death may be. You should spend more of your time on the Jedi boards communicating needed changes to the visibility system as opposed to "This profession killed me...can you turn them into Gumbys?!?"

I saw a jedi last night in the Dant MO decide to throw his lightsaber at one of the low level NPC's out of the blue. Why? That makes you (jedi) hunted. Why duel another jedi at a starport? I even ask why hunt in the area around the Dant MO? You know that a large number of people are there riding about and increasing the likelihood of you being spotted with your glowstick waving around. This may not be your (Shinky) playstyle of course, but it's obvious that these are the habits of jedi in general. If that's the case, you guys should be one-shotted even if I use a thrown wortt.

Just about every complaint I've seen from a jedi is how another profession affects them adversely. Balance always seems to be the issue. You are one profession in a galaxy with a variety of other professions that do other things. How you can sit there and complain about the existence of skills within other professions while you don't even play your ownCORRECTLY is beyond me.

This reply is addressed to Shinky, but most of the comments within are directed towards jedi in general.

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Wow thanks dude - I didn't even think to consider this aspect!

/salute

oh and another thing about jedi keeping off the terminals its impossible to do unless you dont use your jedi as if your out grinding you always get the morons who like to drive threw your group to give you vis now explain to me again how a jedi can stay off the terms the fact of the matter is sl shouldnt be able to do 3.5k ive even seen heard of people with master defender getting killed in 1 hit so jedi changing theretemplate dont work jedi go nurfed yes bh got nurfed yes sl will get nurfed yes simple as (every proffesion gets nurfed) but every one bare in mind pub 24 aint been out that long it things will be changing for every one in the game proffesions getting better or worse its a game at end of day its not life or death

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Tunsa_Phunn wrote:

oh and another thing about jedi keeping off the terminals its impossible to do unless you dont use your jedi as if your out grinding you always get the morons who like to drive threw your group to give you vis now explain to me again how a jedi can stay off the terms

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BS. You can stay off the terms. Many have done it, even those who grind in crowded areas. Pay more attention to your surroundings, if you see a dot, STOP USING FORCE. If you can't pay enough attention, then move somewhere else.

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Tunsa_Phunn wrote:

i fully agree with the fact that sl need to be nurfed as ive just been messing round with some friends and they managed to drop us in 1 hit on a jedi's point of view its far to high the damage multiplyer no one stands a chance against them for instance one of my guildies with this dmg multiplyer on hit a full temp jedi for 3.5k instant incap if it dont get changed there gonna be alot of people quiting.

theres my two cents

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your 2c aint worth **** it is literally impossible for a BH to one hit kill a jedi, unless its not a BH mission and they are guild warring or overt fighting and even then it is very difficult to do - much more difficult than beating them down the old fashioned way. No one will stand there waiting for the minute it takes to prepare yourself as would be needed to pull off such an attack. If you are trying to pretend that your friend is capable of doing such attacks with a BH tef then I think you should report him for exploiting the skill points system, because it is unfair that he has the 275 points necessary to have a temp capable of doing such things and the rest of us don't....

I think your friend should be nerfed back down to the level of the rest of us players.

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Tunsa_Phunn wrote:

oh and another thing about jedi keeping off the terminals its impossible to do unless you dont use your jedi as if your out grinding you always get the morons who like to drive threw your group to give you vis now explain to me again how a jedi can stay off the terms the fact of the matter is sl shouldnt be able to do 3.5k ive even seen heard of people with master defender getting killed in 1 hit so jedi changing theretemplate dont work jedi go nurfed yes bh got nurfed yes sl will get nurfed yes simple as (every proffesion gets nurfed) but every one bare in mind pub 24 aint been out that long it things will be changing for every one in the game proffesions getting better or worse its a game at end of day its not life or death

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yup i know plenty of jedi that never have been hunted but maybe once or twice... its really not that hard if your observant and try. although i'm sure it only happens in a set up situation and not an actual combat situation, thats a shame that jedi can get one hit incapped... i know how it feels, been getting waxed by jedi since they bred like rabbits all so seemingly long ago. welcome to the getting pwnd club!

I've been takeing a gander at the jedi forums lately to see all the 'facts' and 'testing'. Somthing I've noticed, most of the jedi, with names I've seen around for awhile now, aren't realy experienceing all these one hit incaps. They havent done any testing of it mind you, they've just been playing the game as they've always done. Then you have this group of jedi who claims they're getting hunted down all over and getting one hit incaps left and right. What I'd like to know is what the second group of jedi are doing horribly different, because the first group doesnt seem to have changed anything in their builds.

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Tunsa_Phunn wrote:

oh and another thing about jedi keeping off the terminals its impossible to do unless you dont use your jedi as if your out grinding you always get the morons who like to drive threw your group to give you vis now explain to me again how a jedi can stay off the terms the fact of the matter is sl shouldnt be able to do 3.5k ive even seen heard of people with master defender getting killed in 1 hit so jedi changing theretemplate dont work jedi go nurfed yes bh got nurfed yes sl will get nurfed yes simple as (every proffesion gets nurfed) but every one bare in mind pub 24 aint been out that long it things will be changing for every one in the game proffesions getting better or worse its a game at end of day its not life or death

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My two cents? Grind smarter.

Avoid Dantooine. Go to out of the way cities or planets. Resist the urge to take down npc's with the ls. Don't stay in one place for too long.

That is, if you want to avoid visibility and give the bh's who ARE hunting you a real challenge. I've consciously been changing my habits since getting my glowbat and making sure I'm not stuck anywhere for too long, unless it happens to be in one of my houses.

to the OP. no worries. you can pretty much sing merry nerf-mas to the SL's. haha and to the guy that said grind smarter to avoid vis.. right. not possble.

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PoodoSweeper wrote:
haha and to the guy that said grind smarter to avoid vis.. right. not possble.

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Well gee that sure didn't take long. As soon as this publish came out I said to myself, "This will be the new Jedi profession to gripe about." Sure enough here they are.

Well I made a mess in the jedi forum, but it seemed to tone down a bit after a little discussion. What it seems to come down to after trodding down every path is, any solution would leave one profession or another shafted. The only thing my limited knowledge could come up with is disableing or preventing the buff as soon as a bh take the jedi mission, but it just sounds too much like the nerf call getting called on us right now so I'm at a total loss. I just keep thinking back a month or two and I keep hearing.....I told you so.