Squad Leader Archive
Thread: The E-Web...A Commando and Squad Leader Joint Effort
ok guys this is what you do
YOu give SL's and OCmmandos the cert probably at master
you give the speed and accuracy modifiers to SL's
you give any damage MOD's and more importantly, the specials to commandos, since they are the Heavy Weapons specialists.
In essence the Commando can operate the weapon better, but it takes the SL's leadership, extra technical training, and the SL's ability to command to give it the extra edge.
If the commando goes down the SL can STILL use the weapon, but less efficiently...and vice versa.
Lets say an SL and a COmmando are on an Eweb and the commando gets sniped.....is the SL gonna stand there and stare blankly into the sky? OFC NOT! he's gonan hunker down and continue firing the weapon...unless his entire squad is falling back.
By giving commando's the damage and specials you effectively make it to where when SL and Commando are present it WILL BE the commando operating the weapon. Why? Because they are the ones who can use the specials for maxximum effect.
But you have to give SL's the ability to use it as well.
1) Master Commandos get certification for this weapon
2) Low Accuracy and Damage Modifiers are given to Commandos at master, but NO speed mods.
3) Commandos can take out gun solo, BUT due to low accuracy and damage modifiers he is very inefficient with it. (also depending on mechanics, if you are not grouped and nearbya SL it takes a longer amount of time to deploy/pack)
4) Commandos and SL use it at the same time giving double to triple the amount of accuracy and damage as well as a speed mod. (Maybe also commandos only get to use very limited specials when solo but get major ones when grouped)
5) As a method of teamwork, the commando is unable to target with the weapon,leaving the SL to "spot" their next target, while the commando operates the specials for the gun. (This is mearly a suggestion of teamwork so that the SL has an important role with the weapon's operation)
6) Master SL is the only person able to help operate the weapon. (This gives more meaning to being master)
7) The speed mod would come from a specialized ammo pack that only a master SL is certified for. This is mainly due to real life where typically one person carries the gun, while the other person loads/carries the ammo. (A side effect of this would give weaponsmiths another thing to craft and specialize in. The better the pack, the better the speed. This is really negotiable, but would add to another profession while helping ours. To be honest if this is going to be such a powerful gun, then there should be many specialized aspects to it.)
8) Number 7 could also spin off other items for the SL or Commando, such as a better tripod that would make deploy/pack faster.
I really want this to be a joint effort as far as the gun's maximum usefullness and potential are concerned.However, solo use would still be given to the commandos if at all and not to SL.Because of this I do NOTfeel that squad leaders should have aline centered around the E-Web, therefore no skill points are used on this weapon. He is capable of supporting the commando due to hispast combat experiences and therefore at master has enough expertese to provide this role.SLmight get a certwith minimal use, just in case the commando goes down. But I still feel that the specials andmain operation should stay with the commando.These points give an awesome balance to the power of theweapon, as well as massive coordination and dependablity between the professions.
I would like the Squad Leader's to give their opinions and suggestions on what I have proposed.
I think that any weapon that takes two people to use that are in different Professions is a pain in the butt and not worth the hassle.
I have 50 people in my Guild, I had 2 Master Doc's swear they would show up 1 week later for the guild hunt, and did they show? Noooo, because stuff comes up RL, because this is a online game and people are not dependable basicly. Out of the 15 guys I went hunting with, the one guy I know RL is the only one who showed for the second week and all the newbies showed up when were were gonna go Krayt hunting. Newbies+no Docs+Krayts= Alot of deaths. Needless to say I cancled the hunt for Krayts and tried to move the hunt and it fell apart. A very frustrating time for all, needless to say.
The above is an exsample of why I say 'hassle'. Now, try to combine that with two Professions to use a weapon, then tack on any 'level' requirements and I say this thing is doomed. Besides, how is this helping the average player? How is this helping the game? Only person I see this helping is the Guilds. How is the non-guild person who is a Commando or SL gonna pull this off? They are not, and thus why this is doomed, at least for now.
They have to many other things to fix before they muddle the water with this disaster. Sorry if I seem negitive, but I put why.
Ster, I loved your proposal right up untill you said SL's couldn't use it solo and no mods in a tree...
I think Commando's need to remember who is up for the revamp. Yup Squad Leader and rightfully so. If ya'll realy want to see this gun make it in the game ya might want to keep that in mind. Best chance ya got of seeing it is in the SL revamp. All the bickering about who spends more SP's or has the specialization in what is only gonna get this project canned permanantly. Course ya could wait for a Commando revamp...that may happen...someday...
C'mon guys lets work together on this its a great idea.
Thats from a Commando and a Squad Leader, but I aint saying wich side I dabble in
Dex Fay'Scatha
ps. How does one person use a two man gun?
\ Rua Ardan ~ Dantooine /
DiLune wrote:
Its in the official history of the gun. It only requires one to pull the trigger but the other has to run the power regulator. The power regulator can be run through a power droid but it isn't nearly as efficient as having a human there flipping switches and twisting dials. If you want the shield generator up you have to have a third person. I'm doubting the devs would put in a shield generator though.
might give DE's a purpose in combat
and god knows the DE's need soem love.........why not have it as an option?