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Thread: The SL In Concept revamp thread is up!
Thats something we are grappling with at the moment. We made some headway, but there are still some issues. It is very likely that the SL XP fix will go to live before the SL revamp.
Deplomatic wrote:
Great TH , all idea's i had have alrady been posted by other pepole
Trough i would like to see the xp fix before the squad leader revamp... like all of us
Couldn't we finish the DE re-vamp before we get move on to the SL re-vamp? Lord knows SL needs re-vamping, but the DEs pretty much feel forgotten, what with wookies armor, mini-krayt invations, and all this talk about SL... TH, you have already posted more on SL in a few short days that you have on DEin your entire life! The DEs are feeling utterly un-loved, and we are supposed to be in middle of our "focus" time!
Please! I am on my knees begging, pleading... just talk to us. I am almost in tears over the DE re-vamp. I feel emotionally sucked dry. Just talk to us, I know we can work this out. The silence is cutting my heart to shreds. So do I long for the sweet, tender attention of the developers.
Message Edited by GamerProX on 04-08-2004 12:28 AM
GamerProX wrote:Hey Jvee, The DE's had their chance and blew it. You got your Combat Droids now, the little R2's that shoot bolts of light. You "could" have had real combat droids in the game but the whole DE community shot down the Droid Commander Profession, now we are stuck with having Gnort Battle Droids, and Droids that will add to the spam at Coronet.Im sorry man, but you guys had your chance at something really cool. Holding up Revamps for Squad Leader and Smuggler cause your not happy with the choices you made is not fair to these other professions.*I* am a DE, I have one on Sunrunner that I have stopped playing, why? It aint fun. As Hard as I tried to explain that Droid Commander was the ONLY way to bring real Combat Droids into this game, and this revamp was our one shot at getting some cool stuff, they did not pay attention, and just like I said, the Devs are moving on to other Professions, as they should.So lets stay out of the Squad Leader messages, this is their day now. Good lick to them.
Well, just don't bring your "Droid Commander" ideas to Squad Leader... NO MORE CREATURE HANDLERS.
I have to agree with the DE's that said all players should have access to combat droids, as it just makes sense...
Yeraze wrote:
GamerProX wrote:
Hey Jvee, The DE's had their chance and blew it. You got your Combat Droids now, the little R2's that shoot bolts of light. You "could" have had real combat droids in the game but the whole DE community shot down the Droid Commander Profession, now we are stuck with having Gnort Battle Droids, and Droids that will add to the spam at Coronet.
Im sorry man, but you guys had your chance at something really cool. Holding up Revamps for Squad Leader and Smuggler cause your not happy with the choices you made is not fair to these other professions.
*I* am a DE, I have one on Sunrunner that I have stopped playing, why? It aint fun. As Hard as I tried to explain that Droid Commander was the ONLY way to bring real Combat Droids into this game, and this revamp was our one shot at getting some cool stuff, they did not pay attention, and just like I said, the Devs are moving on to other Professions, as they should.
So lets stay out of the Squad Leader messages, this is their day now. Good lick to them.
Well, just don't bring your "Droid Commander" ideas to Squad Leader... NO MORE CREATURE HANDLERS.
I have to agree with the DE's that said all players should have access to combat droids, as it just makes sense...
And so they do, All players now have access to Gnort Droids.
My ideas for Squad Leader have nothing to do with turning it into a "Creature Handler" profession. But I strongly believe Squad Leader should be allowed to have out more than one Faction Pet, I miss the days of 3 Stromtroopers following their commander. And it would allow SL to have *some* usefulness if they are not grouped with players, its a shame that Squad Leader players waste a great deal of skill points on a Profession they can only use when grouped with others, 50% of the time if not more you are alone in this game, or not the leader of a group.
jemelby wrote:
Couldn't we finish the DE re-vamp before we get move on to the SL re-vamp? Lord knows SL needs re-vamping, but the DEs pretty much feel forgotten, what with wookies armor, mini-krayt invations, and all this talk about SL... TH, you have already posted more on SL in a few short days that you have on DEin your entire life! The DEs are feeling utterly un-loved, and we are supposed to be in middle of our "focus" time!
Please! I am on my knees begging, pleading... just talk to us. I am almost in tears over the DE re-vamp. I feel emotionally sucked dry. Just talk to us, I know we can work this out. The silence is cutting my heart to shreds. So do I long for the sweet, tender attention of the developers.
i agree ask Sl's if they dont mind being the Droid Commander of SWG...better then adding a new prof in most of the communities eyes and a pratical change for Sl's...
Gron_DM wrote:
i agree ask Sl's if they dont mind being the Droid Commander of SWG...better then adding a new prof in most of the communities eyes and a pratical change for Sl's...
GamerProX wrote:
Hey Jvee, The DE's had their chance and blew it. You got your Combat Droids now, thelittle R2's that shoot bolts of light. You "could" have had real combat droids in the game but the whole DE community shot down the Droid Commander Profession, now we are stuck with having Gnort Battle Droids, and Droids that will add to the spam at Coronet.
Im sorry man, but you guys had your chance at something really cool. Holding up Revamps for Squad Leader and Smuggler cause your not happy with the choices you made is not fair to these other professions.
*I* am a DE, I have one on Sunrunner that I have stopped playing, why? It aint fun. As Hard as I tried to explain that Droid Commander was the ONLY way to bring real Combat Droids into this game, and this revamp was our one shot at getting some cool stuff, they did not pay attention, and just like I said, the Devs are moving on to other Professions, as they should.
So lets stay out of the Squad Leader messages, this is their day now. Good luck to them.
Message Edited by GamerProX on 04-08-2004 12:28 AM
The DC idea got shot down by the development team not the DE community. We don't write the code. The DC profession got killed because the Dev team didn't want to do another CH profession. In other words, they had an idea but it wouldn't fit into the overall game structure. Therefore, it was cancelled.
The only way a SL should solo is through use of a 2nd prof (Carbineer, Rifleman, Pistoleer). We dedicate ourself to improving the group, and that our abilities only work when in a group just makes sense and counterbalances our (hopefully) devastating abilities.
Kilarny wrote:
GamerProX wrote:
Hey Jvee, The DE's had their chance and blew it. You got your Combat Droids now, thelittle R2's that shoot bolts of light. You "could" have had real combat droids in the game but the whole DE community shot down the Droid Commander Profession, now we are stuck with having Gnort Battle Droids, and Droids that will add to the spam at Coronet.
Im sorry man, but you guys had your chance at something really cool. Holding up Revamps for Squad Leader and Smuggler cause your not happy with the choices you made is not fair to these other professions.
*I* am a DE, I have one on Sunrunner that I have stopped playing, why? It aint fun. As Hard as I tried to explain that Droid Commander was the ONLY way to bring real Combat Droids into this game, and this revamp was our one shot at getting some cool stuff, they did not pay attention, and just like I said, the Devs are moving on to other Professions, as they should.
So lets stay out of the Squad Leader messages, this is their day now. Good luck to them.
Message Edited by GamerProX on 04-08-2004 12:28 AM
Hey, GamerProX - it wasn't the DE community that shot down the Droid Commander. That implies that we the consumers of this SOE product actually influence game development. Not so.
The DC idea got shot down by the development team not the DE community. We don't write the code. The DC profession got killed because the Dev team didn't want to do another CH profession. In other words, they had an idea but it wouldn't fit into the overall game structure. Therefore, it was cancelled.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Umm...no, lol, nice try tho. The Droid Commander idea was offered to the DE community, THEY shot it down. I recall lots of posts from TH asking "Why the change of heart" and what not. Go back and read, TH said the Devs removed the Droid Commander Profession for utilitydue to the feedback from the DE community. Im apart of that community if you did not know. I was so sad to sit back and watch as Combat Droids were wiped out of the future of SWG by the likes of the people in my own profession!
But, some seem interested in Squad Leader supporting Battle Droids, we can only hope at this point. It depends on what Squad Leaders want, not what DE's want. I play a Squad Leader too tho, my ideas for Squad Leader will be based on what *I* would like to see for Squad Leader and NOT DE at this point. I like the ideas of giving Squad Leaders more than one Faction Troops, or Combat Droids, but I think if I had to choose, it would be for more Faction Troops. Tho, if you give Squad Leader Combat Droids, that means neutrals could use them too, and thats a good thing.
Yeraze wrote:
Squad Leader is a group-based profession.. Always has been, always should be.
The only way a SL should solo is through use of a 2nd prof (Carbineer, Rifleman, Pistoleer). We dedicate ourself to improving the group, and that our abilities only work when in a group just makes sense and counterbalances our (hopefully) devastating abilities.
Well who said Squad Leaders only lead players? Who made that rule? I dont recall when gettong novice SL being told "You can only lead Players from this point on" never saw that flash on my screen. Im a casual player, not the leader of a PA nor am I a well known Rancor hunting party leader. So what your telling me is that 135 skill points I spent on Squad Leader are only going to be useful 50% if not less of my time online. Otherwise I am wasting all my skill points.
You alienate me as a casual player, who would like to be a Squad Leader. You know, I really cant see why you would be against Squad Leaders being allowed to have more than one faction pet, or combat droid. It would only make the profession far more cool and interesting, and it would not leave behind the casual player. Can you explain to me why you are against adding something cool like that to Squad Leader?
If you think im implying I want the whole Squad Leader profession to be based off of Faction Troops and Combat Droids your wrong,I feel strongly that Squad Leader main power should come from leading players, but I also feel strong that the profession should not suffer if they are not the group leader. 135 skil points are alot to spend on skills and whatnot your only going to use for less than half the time in the game. All im asking is to give Squad Leader "some" kind of extra boost should they be on their own. And Faction Troops or Combat Droids would work into that nicely I think.