Squad Leader Archive
Thread: Poll : Are squad leader bots cheap and cheesy.
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Faithdies
Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:51 pm
#14
Gungeun wrote:
Hey a FIGHT member, wheres your guys PA city? What planet?
Cuz i see lots and lots of you at VoD, always dueling.
BTW, whats the best 2 trees for SL? Cuz im going MCM with SL, or splitting CM and SL so its equal.
Or, should i Master SL and leave some CM stuff out?
Cuz im into Leading and helping.
We live in VoD. That's why. hehe.
I think the terrain N line, and the steady Aim line are both very cool. We've been thinking on the 1213 SL.
gando
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:30 am
#15
Getting rid of sl bots is a great idea. Forcing them to get a TEF for using abilities is not, nor requiring overt status. Not all sl's are factioned, nor she they be required to be, ever.
SpidermanPuddin
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:22 am
#16
SL bots are cheap. I don't like being in a group with them. I did once with a RAID in Theed and I myself was an SL but they wanted to use a bot. It was good bonus and all but so cheap... I felt like an dirty IMP.
I would only use a macro for SL to do /ui action clearcombat so that you don't have to wait for it to happen.
I would only use a macro for SL to do /ui action clearcombat so that you don't have to wait for it to happen.
Telakyte
Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:55 am
#17
Buff bots aren't cheap. They're simply a better alternative. Especially since considering Squad Leader is no where near worth the points putting in to it. Until the profession is fixed, there's little else to hope for.
MasterSquadLeader
Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:49 pm
#18
Whats retarded about a range is that I cant use retreat. I have my character out in the feild having people going after Jedis that run and other normal runners. If There is a cap on the range Then Its useless I sit out there overt with my mind taking the beating of its life making people run in my full composite I want them to go no matter where I am. If Im taking 1500 a shot mind I better be able to keep them going.
kamikze_one
Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:58 pm
#19
If your taking 1500 out of mind a retreat, theres something wrong. Get buffed, ahrisa, brandy, maxed out mind stats. You should have no problem then and should be able to spam retreat and have a always burst macro going.
SaleusCorwen
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:05 pm
#20
i was honestly suprised they didn't have a range limit on the squad leader's abilities (i just made squad leader).
[256m,512m, or at max 1024m] infact maybe range can be incorporated into the tree..
if you think about it a squad leader isn't someone who sits on the back lines directing the battle (that is more of a general's [etc..] responsibility)
a squad leader IMHO, is suppose to be out there on the front lines with his Squad.
for the squad leader revamp i would hope they keep this idea in mind..
Rarrot
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:57 pm
#21
Aside from implementing a maximum range at which the commands work, perhaps it would be a better solution to put a delay on how often the 'spammed' commands work. This is a common solution used for abilities that could've been spammed in an abusive manner, such as KD, Posture Down, and delays, and it would make a bot far less valuable than a real squad leader.
If retreat only worked once every two minutes (not the delay on using it, but a timer preventing a player from receiving the boost more often than that), then a squad leader that's following the battle would have to time the retreats to give their squad the greatest possible advantage; a bot would just give them boosts in set intervals, regardless of whether or not they're useful. Things like form-up and steady aim could be reduced to every 10 or 15 seconds, so that they're more useful with someone watching the battle than with a bot using them at fixed intervals. While making us marginally less effective, it would give the real squad leaders a large advantage over their bot-counterparts because we'd be capable of using them at appropriate times. Furthermore, it would help to reduce the trend towards spamming commands so frequently that it's impossible to talk to anyone in spatial.
If retreat only worked once every two minutes (not the delay on using it, but a timer preventing a player from receiving the boost more often than that), then a squad leader that's following the battle would have to time the retreats to give their squad the greatest possible advantage; a bot would just give them boosts in set intervals, regardless of whether or not they're useful. Things like form-up and steady aim could be reduced to every 10 or 15 seconds, so that they're more useful with someone watching the battle than with a bot using them at fixed intervals. While making us marginally less effective, it would give the real squad leaders a large advantage over their bot-counterparts because we'd be capable of using them at appropriate times. Furthermore, it would help to reduce the trend towards spamming commands so frequently that it's impossible to talk to anyone in spatial.
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