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Thread: Thinking about a return to Squad Leader a weapon question

Sylow
Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:19 am
#14






Novock wrote:
Hey guys thanks for the lectures and the mechanics 101 course. I mean really after playing this game for almost 2 years thats what i was loking for. You guys have fun now i think you help me make my decision anyways.






Then -please- explain what you want? We told you the regular caps on the weapons, we told you that DPS, when you asked for it, was not the stat to look at.


If we were insulting you, it was not intentional. I know some veterans who still speak in terms of DPS and then are utterly surprised when my low-DPS weapon rips them to pieces while their high-dps weapon just smacky my armour.


We are trying to be helpful, if this is insulting you, i am really sorry but don't know how to change that, unless you specify more exactly what you are looking for.







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Novock
Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:30 am
#15







Sylow wrote:





Novock wrote:
Hey guys thanks for the lectures and the mechanics 101 course. I mean really after playing this game for almost 2 years thats what i was loking for. You guys have fun now i think you help me make my decision anyways.






Then -please- explain what you want? We told you the regular caps on the weapons, we told you that DPS, when you asked for it, was not the stat to look at.


If we were insulting you, it was not intentional. I know some veterans who still speak in terms of DPS and then are utterly surprised when my low-DPS weapon rips them to pieces while their high-dps weapon just smacky my armour.


We are trying to be helpful, if this is insulting you, i am really sorry but don't know how to change that, unless you specify more exactly what you are looking for.







Maybe I can clarify a little bit just need a few minutes as I'm helping someone with teh rytatt trails at the same time here.


OK I have my main account which has my Jedi and my crafter and have a second account which my toon Oasis is on. I'm thinking about making him a support toon but am hoping to work in as much offense as possible. i'm looking at Master Doc Master SL. hence my speed will be very low and I won't have much on specials. hence RAW DPS is much more important it also gives me a gage of where to pu my last few points and what i can actulally get out of my points. Hence can a get enough speed out of pistoler or a strong enough shot out of carbineer to make the most of my points. So the best starting point in my thinkning is base RAW DPS whats the most powerful weapon to start with and see what i can get to back it up. I understand the speed equation is such that it borks the DPS numbers on teh gun stats when you achieve speed in the 90+ range but I won't have the luxury. Anyway thats why I was interested in DPS i didn't need a run down on the mechanics just was a looking for a basement to start from.

Message Edited by Novock on 08-29-2005 11:55 AM

Message Edited by Novock on 08-29-2005 11:59 AM



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AlienEntity
Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
#16

Click the link in my Sig, that gives a lot of information about SL weapons that was started when the CU came about so that all of us would know what's up and where's where and how's how.



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Novock
Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:16 am
#17






AlienEntity wrote:
Click the link in my Sig, that gives a lot of information about SL weapons that was started when the CU came about so that all of us would know what's up and where's where and how's how.




i assume then nothing has changed with weapons or weapon stats since May then. I appreciate your post and thats what I'l go by. Thank you.



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AlienEntity
Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:22 am
#18



Novock wrote:


Sylow wrote:
We have the SL cache thread around, lists all available things pretty well.
On the matter of DPS... why not wound chance? Both stats are worthless when evaluating the quality of a weapon, after all.
Anyways, be assured the intimidator pistol and E5 carbine can be crafted up to the standards of other lv. 54 weapons and are well able to mess with the best and come out as top-class weapon.



I appreciate the information though the chip on shoulder I don't understand. i read through that thread but seeing the date on it assumed things could have changed and something new may have been out or new resources may have bumped the crafted weapons up a bit. the stat DPS on the gun is a borked number and I was more interested in real DPS. I'm still not accustomed to equaiting that particular stat with the term DPS as i am more used to raw DPS figures that we have always figured based on min/max and speed, so where you're little snide comment came from i don't know.






It's all up to date, pooling the latest info as I find it. As for resources, well they will always vary, due to the fact that they are not static resources. So the best that's available will be the best the gun can have. Those stats are the max stats possible for the craftable E5 and Intimidator. Check the thread about pistol buying, that'll help on knowing more about pistols. There's also one for Carbines. Haven't found one suitable for Rifles, but with work being in the way, it may take some time.



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Assuck
Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:28 am
#19

heh, I dont think sylow was attempting to be snide. There aren't many d!cks on the SL forum.



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SpunkyKuma
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:54 am
#20

I believe I have a full collection with the Downsorrow, Intimidater, E5 and even the Tchotche "flare" pistol. IMO the Tchotche is the best gun if you're doing pistoleer otherwise I really like my E5 with 950 dmg and 80 SAC and I also have a nice Gorax Intimidater that's close to 900 damage with 75 SAC.

They're all pretty nice weapons



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maximum_markus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:25 am
#21

Being a SL/Rifleman I really love the Dawnsorrow rifle, although I must admit. I really do like using the intimidator, looks really awesome and does some pretty sweet damage. I do a good ammount of dmg on mine without Master Pistoleer. It really makes me look at Master Pistoleer but I love rifleman way too much. Always had a rifleman for a little over 1.5 years.
Wystery
Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:58 pm
#22

The question was for DPS, that doesn't mean DPS tells everything


I only use the Dawnsorrow Rifle (MSL) and the Tchotchee Pistol (Strategy III), and both are my best. They have good DPS, and just good everything else. I don't use wound chance, my fights don't last long enough for that to factor in. I've seen some stats for the Intimidator Pistol (I think MSL) and I'm very impressed with it too. All the normies compliment our SL guns too





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