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Thread: 2 questions for squad leaders

CeDara
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:15 am
#1

Question one:


What would be the best combonation as a pure support role having MSL being the main profession (Defense and Offense not applicable looking for pure support... entertainer/doc/ect.ect...)



Question two:


What would you think would be the best combonation for a more efficient Fighting MSL (I have tried all fighting professions and i like them all so please no "What ever you like best or is more fun for you" Posts.


I appreciate the expertise.


Ce'Dara



Ce'Dara Fate
Antarian Rangers
KJFett3
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:27 am
#2






CeDara wrote:

Question one:


What would be the best combonation as a pure support role having MSL being the main profession (Defense and Offense not applicable looking for pure support... entertainer/doc/ect.ect...)


Doctor or Combat Medic...throw in Novice BE if you can.


Question two:


What would you think would be the best combonation for a more efficient Fighting MSL (I have tried all fighting professions and i like them all so please no "What ever you like best or is more fun for you" Posts.


MSL/MCarb/MMarksmand/Medic0010. I love it and feel I can command and help with killing and crowd control all while getting in a heal from time to time. There are a lot of guys that get fooled thinking I'm just another SL only to discover that I have very good defenses, +100carb spd and a mean carbine to boot... (Not to mention the lvl30 mouse droid that has almost 4K health, 1400ish armor and a wpn for 46-250 dmg. lol ) ..they die quickly and realize why I wear my officer cap in battle with the "Field Commander" tag. at least in my not so humble opinion.


I appreciate the expertise.


Ce'Dara








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Sylow
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:34 am
#3







What would be the best combonation as a pure support role having MSL being the main profession (Defense and Offense not applicable looking for pure support... entertainer/doc/ect.ect...)





In that case, slam in Doctor or Combat Medic. I would go for the second, group-healing is just too great, and saves skillpoints. Entertainer doesn't cut it for support, the remaining skillpoints can be distributed at leisure. Putting them into medic xx4x would increase healing power even more, moving them into one or another combat profession allows you to also support your team a bit with direct firepower, i personally would really say, go for personal preference, can't decide.

If you want to help with basebusting, novice BE might indeed be a good choice, would eat up the medic xx4x skillpoints, though. (The BE is usually the hardest person to get for the job.)







What would you think would be the best combonation for a more efficient Fighting MSL (I have tried all fighting professions and i like them all so please no "What ever you like best or is more fun for you" Posts.




Uh... heck, i am really on the "whatever you like best" line. I personally "feel" that melee is not a good choicedue to higher skillpoint costs and the fact that you're in the thick of battle and have little overview. But there are melee SLs around who claim to do fine, so while it being harder to do, it apparently is possible.


Of ranged professions, i would advise not to touch commando. While being great when combined with a class which has crowd control abilities, the commando is a bad failure when connected to SL. The two professions just don't match on one person. Due to skillpoint reasons, i would advise to stick with pistoleer, carbineer, rifleman or bounty hunter, as they all only need one more branch of either scout or marksman to unlock.


Wich of the four... throw a dice, sorry. I personally feel perfectly fine with Carbineer. Since not all SL abilities can performed when prone, rifleman seems to only be a mediocre choice, despite having the option to stick further back and having more overview. So it's (in my oppinion, i know that some people disagree...) Pistoleer for good crowd control with limited range and firepower, carbineer for massive firepower at acceptable range while having limited crowd control or BH for high weapon flexibility and a variety of attacks with different effects.


I wouldn't manage to say which one is "best", just depends on how you fight and what you want to do...


Edit: Reading the posting of KFett i have to agree, some medic never is a bad idea. But while he also invests in MMarks, i dropped the stuff in novice BE for the reasons given above. To get effective healing, i advise to wear a shirt with +medic efficiency, shirts go along with armour and considering how much a +16 modifier improves my lousy bacta shot, i can't imagine there's any BE mod just comming close to how much this modifier helps...

Message Edited by Sylow on 07-14-2005 06:39 PM






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KJFett3
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:54 am
#4

Originally, I had CM4000 instead of MMarksman, but found that in PVP there were docs and cms around to do that. I then switched over to MM to get that extra general spd and acc that is in that box so that I could use a rifle and pistolwell....and my carbine really well. That's just me though.



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CeDara
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:09 am
#5


Any opinions on this template for support..


MSL MDOC and Novice Dancer


this would allow me to increase everyones effectiveness in combat through MSL and Doc buffs... also heal everyone in group of states and wounds and such... and give them a inspiration buffs and heal battle fatigue... aslo with MSL allowing me to set up camps when needed also?

It sounds like most people would be able to use this template in a group cause all there needs would be taken care of?


Opinions???


Cedara



Ce'Dara Fate
Antarian Rangers
KJFett3
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:16 am
#6






CeDara wrote:


Any opinions on this template for support..


MSL MDOC and Novice Dancer


this would allow me to increase everyones effectiveness in combat through MSL and Doc buffs... also heal everyone in group of states and wounds and such... and give them a inspiration buffs and heal battle fatigue... aslo with MSL allowing me to set up camps when needed also?

It sounds like most people would be able to use this template in a group cause all there needs would be taken care of?


Opinions???


Cedara





You might want to rethink that dancer thing. Battle Fatigue goes the way of the do-do bird in the next publish. All it will do is give insperation buffs....which with that low a lvl will take a long time to apply I think. If you like the temp go for it. I'm just giving my 2 cents is all.





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Loki_Ashaman
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:38 am
#7

I'd go musician, but that is just because I've always favored musician. As mentioned above though, battle fatigue is going away shortly, and if something may or may not replace it to make an entertainer useful to a hunting group is an unknown at this time.




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CeDara
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:48 am
#8

Well if its going away what are they replacing it with.... more inspirations??? or is that all entertainers are going to be doing after this patch.



Ce'Dara





Ce'Dara Fate
Antarian Rangers
KJFett3
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:49 am
#9






CeDara wrote:

Well if its going away what are they replacing it with.... more inspirations??? or is that all entertainers are going to be doing after this patch.



Ce'Dara







They aer giving them props and new dances.



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Loki_Ashaman
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:55 am
#10

*Hopefully* there is more in the works for entertainers, but its just not ready for testing / Live yet.




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CeDara
Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:56 am
#11

Pfft... what a crock.... can they use the props to intimidate people LOL like a tommygun prop.


Poor entertaineers


I read that they were also concidering making different type of inspiration buffs but no real word yet



Ce'Dara





Ce'Dara Fate
Antarian Rangers
AlienEntity
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:37 pm
#12

Well Cedara, unfortunatly it is whatever you like best and all of that jazz at least where fighting professions are concerned, I will say this again despite you apparently knowing it all ready, I mean no disrespect when stating it again, but it is up to each individual. All of them have benifits and hinderences. I started off on Rifles(didn't get to far into it though), during the CU switch, I switched to Pistoleer and mastered it. Now currently I'm a MMarks/MSL/MCarbs/Scout 4-0-1-4 who may possibly switch to Rifleman.

The reason I switched from Pistols to Carbines is because I've got the desktop of a Clone trooper with a carbine running. To me, that said it was my toon and I'm happy with the switch. The only reason I may switch to Rifleman is because I feel the toon would know each profession. Despite being able to only have 1 Elite profession and 1 Hybrid. It's how I see the toon. He's a Rebel to the core.

Now a good "support" role, I think is SL/CM or Doc/with some combat profession. That way you can direct your squad into combat and heal them, as well as being able to fend off enemies that are attacking you.

If you want to be MSL as well as a combat profession, look into some of the BH tree. The BH tree has some benefits to it like has been discussed before.

I hope you find or found a combination you like. The game is to be played for fun. Nothing else. Have fun doing it. After you've mastered all there is to master, what's left? Not very much. Just running mission after mission after mission. That can get boring pretty quick. Think about what you like, how you see the toon. It will surprise you on what you find you like.

Good luck and best wishes.
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paolo_ikro
Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:04 am
#13

As it happens I am making one of my toons MSL/MCM/Pistols 0004 just as a support template for group hunts. I am hoping that I will get a lot of satisfaction from this seeing as it really is just a support template...only time will tell though.




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