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Thread: Last ditch working as intended?
Gilbert45 wrote:
Hey smugglers!
Was wondering if any of you knew whether or not last ditch is working as intended?
I seem to recall a post by a dev once saying that 1 shot kills will be impossible for any elite profession (think it was a post pre-CU). Did they retract that or is last ditch simply broken atm? Anyone know?
that's my boy...
lokidevil wrote:
1 shot kills are impossible using Last ditch "by it self" the bug you are seeing is a result of a player using the FS quest reward health force crystal which gives him an extra 2k health.
LD works on an equation based on your current health and action and multiplies your damage by that so if the person only has 3k health and it down to 100 he will hit you for roughly 2k damage after armour.
If the person has 5-6k health and is down to 100hp when he uses LD then we will hit for 4k or higher.
So its the force crystals causing the bug not the skill it self so to answer your question, Yes the skill Last Ditch is working as intended.
A friend and I duelled for fun and neither of us were buffed or were in any other way enhanced. Just fresh of the "loading" block. I was fully healed (3k health) when I had him on his heals and went "in for the kill". He used LD and hit me for 4012 points. Instant incap ofcourse. He then duelled a couple of other guildies, intentionally not doing any attacks at all, but waited untill his health was close to nothing and then hit LD. Instant incap. Did it 4 times in a row with 3 different people. So yes, it is currently in fact a 1 shot kill "by itself".
Since he didn't use that force crystal and based on the multiplier you made an example with, can I assume that LD is broken?
Message Edited by Gilbert45 on 05-12-2005 09:45 PM
VegitoX wrote:
Gilbert45 wrote:
Hey smugglers!
Was wondering if any of you knew whether or not last ditch is working as intended?
I seem to recall a post by a dev once saying that 1 shot kills will be impossible for any elite profession (think it was a post pre-CU). Did they retract that or is last ditch simply broken atm? Anyone know?
that's my boy...
What, still no counter explanation Vegito. You gonna direct me to a new forum now?
Well, I have the need to post my findings on Last Ditch ....
Master Smuggler using a once 300/1.0s krayt scout blaster (Of course the stats are now a whopping 144dmg @ 2.08 speed - go figure)
Well, I haven't played since the 2nd "tuning" to space-AI in November? So I shoot at a Durni. Ok, hitting for 119dmg, but I have to keep"attacking" 'cause auto-attack keeps turning off... Killed a lvl4 durni. Decided to shoot at another, and use Last Ditch ... Instant incap. I figure, Fine, I did something wrong.
Tried it again, and once more, got instant-incap'd - didn't do ANYTHING to the target. It's like i was shooting myself in the head. I didn't wanna try a 3rd time, 'cause I figured I had enough.
Now, my question is - is THIS as intended? or am I doing something wrong by trying to use Last Ditch on Durni.
Thanks!
HythosSWG wrote:
Well, I have the need to post my findings on Last Ditch ....
Master Smuggler using a once 300/1.0s krayt scout blaster (Of course the stats are now a whopping 144dmg @ 2.08 speed - go figure)
Well, I haven't played since the 2nd "tuning" to space-AI in November? So I shoot at a Durni. Ok, hitting for 119dmg, but I have to keep"attacking" 'cause auto-attack keeps turning off... Killed a lvl4 durni. Decided to shoot at another, and use Last Ditch ... Instant incap. I figure, Fine, I did something wrong.
Tried it again, and once more, got instant-incap'd - didn't do ANYTHING to the target. It's like i was shooting myself in the head. I didn't wanna try a 3rd time, 'cause I figured I had enough.
Now, my question is - is THIS as intended? or am I doing something wrong by trying to use Last Ditch on Durni.
Thanks!
Your doing something wrong by trying to use Last Ditch when its not meant to be used.
Last ditch is a last resort, if you try to open up with it you will drop your HAM bars right away and do little to no damage because your near full health.
Try it when your nearly dead though and it has devasting results. The incap thing is weird though, sometimes I live through LD other times I incap myself.
Also LD does miss so don't count on it always going off (learnt that the hard way).
JacobHiggins wrote:
The incap thing is wierd, I really think the devs should tells us what causes the player to incap sometimes and sometimes not incap!
My theory is that it has something to do with us regening at the at the same time that LD goes off which allows us to stay alive.
Gilbert45 wrote:
lokidevil wrote:
1 shot kills are impossible using Last ditch "by it self" the bug you are seeing is a result of a player using the FS quest reward health force crystal which gives him an extra 2k health.
LD works on an equation based on your current health and action and multiplies your damage by that so if the person only has 3k health and it down to 100 he will hit you for roughly 2k damage after armour.
If the person has 5-6k health and is down to 100hp when he uses LD then we will hit for 4k or higher.
So its the force crystals causing the bug not the skill it self so to answer your question, Yes the skill Last Ditch is working as intended.
A friend and I duelled for fun and neither of us were buffed or were in any other way enhanced. Just fresh of the "loading" block. I was fully healed (3k health) when I had him on his heals and went "in for the kill". He used LD and hit me for 4012 points. Instant incap ofcourse. He then duelled a couple of other guildies, intentionally not doing any attacks at all, but waited untill his health was close to nothing and then hit LD. Instant incap. Did it 4 times in a row with 3 different people. So yes, it is currently in fact a 1 shot kill "by itself".
Since he didn't use that force crystal and based on the multiplier you made an example with, can I assume that LD is broken?
Message Edited by Gilbert45 on 05-12-2005 09:45 PM
Well, I only dueled 3 times today. I dueled you twice and Xeth once. You killed me once and I killed you once. The time you got me I wasn't able to get LD off in time. I posted on the Jedi board also so you can read more there. Also the duel against Xeth where I lured him in at the end was a gamble on my part. We had been fighting for about 10 mins at that point and after using all my other attacks to try and bring him down I tried that option. I got lucky he didn't kill me before I was able to shoot it off. He's a Master Swordsman/Master Doc. And I only hit him for 3k I believe.
But for my fellow smugglers i was using a pre-nerf FWG5 with a 444 DPS when I hit him for over 4k. The time I lost I wasn't able to get off my LD shot in time. I was using a Laser carbine during that duel testing things out. So I guess the speed on the gun affects just how long your wind-up/cool down period will be...? We were both unbuffed, i had some food in me and spice but that was it. And I was wearing armor. It's still comp armor cause I haevn't brought myself to convert it yet lol.
xTekx wrote:
Gilbert45 wrote:
lokidevil wrote:
1 shot kills are impossible using Last ditch "by it self" the bug you are seeing is a result of a player using the FS quest reward health force crystal which gives him an extra 2k health.
LD works on an equation based on your current health and action and multiplies your damage by that so if the person only has 3k health and it down to 100 he will hit you for roughly 2k damage after armour.
If the person has 5-6k health and is down to 100hp when he uses LD then we will hit for 4k or higher.
So its the force crystals causing the bug not the skill it self so to answer your question, Yes the skill Last Ditch is working as intended.
A friend and I duelled for fun and neither of us were buffed or were in any other way enhanced. Just fresh of the "loading" block. I was fully healed (3k health) when I had him on his heals and went "in for the kill". He used LD and hit me for 4012 points. Instant incap ofcourse. He then duelled a couple of other guildies, intentionally not doing any attacks at all, but waited untill his health was close to nothing and then hit LD. Instant incap. Did it 4 times in a row with 3 different people. So yes, it is currently in fact a 1 shot kill "by itself".
Since he didn't use that force crystal and based on the multiplier you made an example with, can I assume that LD is broken?
Message Edited by Gilbert45 on 05-12-2005 09:45 PM
Well, I only dueled 3 times today. I dueled you twice and Xeth once. You killed me once and I killed you once. The time you got me I wasn't able to get LD off in time. I posted on the Jedi board also so you can read more there. Also the duel against Xeth where I lured him in at the end was a gamble on my part. We had been fighting for about 10 mins at that point and after using all my other attacks to try and bring him down I tried that option. I got lucky he didn't kill me before I was able to shoot it off. He's a Master Swordsman/Master Doc. And I only hit him for 3k I believe.
But for my fellow smugglers i was using a pre-nerf FWG5 with a 444 DPS when I hit him for over 4k. The time I lost I wasn't able to get off my LD shot in time. I was using a Laser carbine during that duel testing things out. So I guess the speed on the gun affects just how long your wind-up/cool down period will be...? We were both unbuffed, i had some food in me and spice but that was it. And I was wearing armor. It's still comp armor cause I haevn't brought myself to convert it yet lol.