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Thread: does this worry anyone else?
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fishbrains
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:22 pm
#1
SmugglinZane
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:34 pm
#2
My honest opinion... not one bit.
One of the things that worried me the most about the direction the game has been going in is that there are some big similarities with the path that UO went on, and it caused my friends and I to quit.
I'm not a big fan of Tyrant's to say the least. I feel he shows little respect to his customers and I really believe he feels superior to us. It shows in his smart ass responses to legitimate questions. Responses that have spread throughout the Dev team as well.
I sincerely hope that this will lead to new and better things, as well as an even better job of making this game more and more like Star Wars.
You never know... this could be paving way for someone from LA to jump in and steer the ship for awhile (which I really wouldn't mind). I only say this because of all the rumors flying around at the end of last year.
In the end, I say good luck to him, and I hope that the change will lead to better things for the game.
Message Edited by SmugglinZane on 03-17-2005 10:35 PM
ValiantHalibut
Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:58 pm
#3
SmugglinZane wrote:My honest opinion... not one bit.One of the things that worried me the most about the direction the game has been going in is that there are some big similarities with the path that UO went on, and it caused my friends and I to quit.I'm not a big fan of Tyrant's to say the least. I feel he shows little respect to his customers and I really believe he feels superior to us. It shows in his smart ass responses to legitimate questions. Responses that have spread throughout the Dev team as well.I sincerely hope that this will lead to new and better things, as well as an even better job of making this game more and more like Star Wars.You never know... this could be paving way for someone from LA to jump in and steer the ship for awhile (which I really wouldn't mind). I only say this because of all the rumors flying around at the end of last year.In the end, I say good luck to him, and I hope that the change will lead to better things for the game.Message Edited by SmugglinZane on 03-17-2005 10:35 PM
I don't know - given the very dry games that LA has been making lately and the painfully conservative decisions (fare thee well Sam, Max and ... uhm... Full Throttle Guy) I would be worried about someone from that organization taking on a bigger role in SWG.
riotcontrol
Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:04 pm
#4
It doesn't really matter anymore since dumbing games down is a trend with pretty much all developers, even the ones who brought us wonderfully complex and fun games in the past. It's a problem with the whole gaming industry, unfortunately.
01201986
Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:36 pm
#5
meh, I thought Battlefront was pretty good, I hear Republic Commando is good, and then you have games like the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight games, not to mention KOTOR 1 & 2. the revenge of the sith game also looks good. LA had a hand in the development of all of those, so maybe they could do something good with this game as well.
ValiantHalibut wrote:
I don't know - given the very dry games that LA has been making lately and the painfully conservative decisions (fare thee well Sam, Max and ... uhm... Full Throttle Guy) I would be worried about someone from that organization taking on a bigger role in SWG.
Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:42 pm
#6
As one who saw a fundamental improvement in all matters once Tyrant came aboard, I'm certainly saddened by his leaving. He was very direct with many of the correspondents and he had our instant respect at the summit. I attribute many of the possitive changes we are now seeing to his influence.
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse! 
Vrond
Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:31 pm
#7
Not all that concerned. He has lived his carreer as a gaming fire fighter puting out fires then moving on to the next crisis. If any thing maybe it means we can stop worrying about getting burned.
JWing
Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:47 am
#8
Vrond wrote:Not all that concerned. He has lived his carreer as a gaming fire fighter puting out fires then moving on to the next crisis. If any thing maybe it means we can stop worrying about getting burned.
Couldn't be said better. I believe him moving on is a good sign that all is well.
Kells
Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:04 am
#9
Yip!
JWing wrote:
Vrond wrote:
Not all that concerned. He has lived his carreer as a gaming fire fighter puting out fires then moving on to the next crisis. If any thing maybe it means we can stop worrying about getting burned.
Couldn't be said better. I believe him moving on is a good sign that all is well.
MISTagent01
Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:14 am
#10
Fixed for accuracy, they didn't actually make those games, only released them under the LA label.
01201986 wrote:
meh, I thought Battlefront was pretty good, I hear Republic Commando is good, and then you have games like the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight games, not to mention KOTOR 1 & 2. the revenge of the sith game also looks good. LA had a hand in the publishing of all of those, so maybe they could do something good with this game as well.
ValiantHalibut wrote:
I don't know - given the very dry games that LA has been making lately and the painfully conservative decisions (fare thee well Sam, Max and ... uhm... Full Throttle Guy) I would be worried about someone from that organization taking on a bigger role in SWG.
01201986
Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:38 am
#11
perhaps, but they definately had a hand in them nonetheless.but i dunno. all depends on the person really. so long as they hire someone with a vision for the game that supports the player base
maxtheusher
Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:44 am
#12
MISTagent01 wrote:Fixed for accuracy, they didn't actually make those games, only released them under the LA label.
01201986 wrote:meh, I thought Battlefront was pretty good, I hear Republic Commando is good, and then you have games like the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight games, not to mention KOTOR 1 & 2. the revenge of the sith game also looks good. LA had a hand in the publishing of all of those, so maybe they could do something good with this game as well.
ValiantHalibut wrote:
I don't know - given the very dry games that LA has been making lately and the painfully conservative decisions (fare thee well Sam, Max and ... uhm... Full Throttle Guy) I would be worried about someone from that organization taking on a bigger role in SWG.
Full Throttle Guy's name is Ben
And I believe LA stopped caring about their longtime fans somwhere between 1998 and 1999. That should be the approximate date for that occurrence. I also believe that's about the time when the old adventure gaming team left to form their own company, but I could be mistaken.
LM
Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:30 am
#13
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
As one who saw a fundamental improvement in all matters once Tyrant came aboard, I'm certainly saddened by his leaving. He was very direct with many of the correspondents and he had our instant respect at the summit. I attribute many of the possitive changes we are now seeing to his influence.
While I never had the pleasure of meeting Gordon, I worked with him a bit during the TSO beta. He got my respect back then.
I agree with you, Caylin -- I saw fundamental improvement in many things here once he was on board. And although the dumbing down of the graphics occurred while he was here (a personal pet peeve), there were many more positive things that happened. His directness was refreshing as well.
Since he seems to be a firefighter at this point in his career, perhaps we can take heart and hope that he put some structure and processes in place that will allow SOE to continue developing at this improved pace.
I am sorry he is leaving (or has left!), too, and it would have been nice to hear from him about this here before reading it in a press interview.
Lilac Moon
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