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Thread: Feign Death No Longer Works???
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D-Man_Bloodfin
Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:14 pm
#1
Thanks For feedback.. Anyone Filled any CSR tickets or anything like that?
Geauxx
Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:15 pm
#2
FD has worked for me just fine. I have noticed that a lot of people saying the FD failures comein the Geo Caves. Has anyelse noticed this? Maybe there is a bug in the Cave.
Geaux Darkcloud
garvin
Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:24 pm
#3
I'm going to investigate this....
Here is what I need from you:
- What level of Smuggler you are (Master Smuggler or 4434, etc)?
- Percentage of times Feign Death has worked for you lately? (1 out of 10 attempts or 10%...etc)
- Were you indoors or outdoors when it seemed to fail mostly?
- Did you notice it failing while fighting a specific NPC or in a Specific Area (or is the same everywhere against anyone)? If yes, what NPC or what Area?
- Were you grouped at the time?
Post that info here and I'll take the results back to the Correspondent Forum for some answers...If there is a bug causing Feign Death to not work, even in one specific area, I'll work to see it get's fixed ASAP...
Onohos
Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:28 pm
#4
Dude, Garvin you kick so much ass it's not even funny!
THe only info I can tell you is that I am a 0444 Smuggler. It pretty much happenes sparaticly (sp?)
Geauxx
Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:36 pm
#5
I am a 0/3/3/3 smuggler and it has never failed me in the 10-12 tries I have used it. I hunt Janta's and Mokk's a lot on Dant.
D-Man_Bloodfin
Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:08 pm
#6
Geno Bunker.. Master Smuggler.. Feign didnt work at ALL.. Enuf Said..
D-man
PhoenixOrion
Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:37 pm
#7
Also things I've noted over the past YEAR of playing this game (since beta - yes I tested swg beta):
Bug # 1 - Feign Death Wound Griefing:
When a Smuggler is Feigned, any players that had him targetted before he was feigned, can continue to shoot and wound him - even though by all means, he should no longer be targetable. Nobody in their right mind would continue to shoot a corpse. And yet, they can in this game. There should be a cutoff once a smuggler is feigned to the opposing player where he is unattackable until he stands back up.
Bug # 2 - Bringing a Smuggler out of Feign Death:
There are a couple moves I will not speak of, but I'm sure many will know what they are, that can bring a Smuggler OUT of his Feign. Which should be qutie impossible as the wound bug, but still nonetheless happens. I will not bother reporting it to Taurin, b/c he doesn't seem to understand nor has experienced the Bugs I *tried* to report to him. But basically at least 2-3 known professions can pull a Smuggler out of his Feign with but one combat special.
Bug # 3 - Feign Death not working at all while in Combat:
This bug seems to have started happening alot more often now. It is not only in the Deathwatch Bunker, but everywhere. I've had to hit my Feign Death button on the Toolbar a dozen times for it to even catch. It would cycle thru about 12-15 feigns in the queue till i'd actually Feign. By that time, I'd either be dead or incapped anyways, and it really didn't matter nor work...
...but then bugs 1 and 2 also come back into play when I actually am successfully feigned. But by that point and time, bug #2 can be exploited, and I'll be dead due to the longevity of trying to feign but not actually feigning (i.e. - losingHAM pointswhile feign death doesn't work, to the point of having none).
I'm pretty sure if THESE 3 bugs I mentioned were fixed, you'd have alot more happier Smugglers around here, at least for the Dirty Fighting Tree. A bit happier if Panic Shot were made more useful than it's current useless state. 
WayneInAustin
Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:22 pm
#8
Garvin, see my responses above. and THANK YOU!!!
garvin wrote:
I'm going to investigate this....
Here is what I need from you:
- What level of Smuggler you are (Master Smuggler or 4434, etc)?
Master Smuggler
- Percentage of times Feign Death has worked for you lately? (1 out of 10 attempts or 10%...etc)
Works about 50-70% of times in the Geo Cave lately. Failed in the Corvette also.
- Were you indoors or outdoors when it seemed to fail mostly?
In the Geo Cave.
- Did you notice it failing while fighting a specific NPC or in a Specific Area (or is the same everywhere against anyone)? If yes, what NPC or what Area?
Aggroed by SEVERAL entities: Crazed Geo Scientists and Alert Droideka at least.
- Were you grouped at the time?
NO
Post that info here and I'll take the results back to the Correspondent Forum for some answers...If there is a bug causing Feign Death to not work, even in one specific area, I'll work to see it get's fixed ASAP...
Joe17
Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:50 pm
#9
Just saying that if you dont get hit during the fiegn death is on your combat que it wont work, it has to be green and fading out. but i could be wrong and it could be a bug.
haho
Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:18 pm
#10
Is bringing a smuggler out of feign with a posture-upcombat attacka bug?
Seems reasonable that someone pretending to be dead can be 'picked up' to check for death.
It is only a 'feign' and not a 'omg he is so dead so lets leave him'
Golrok
Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:24 pm
#11
It finally happened to me the other day.
I am master smug. I was Overt. I had TEF. Fighting imp NPCs. Spammed FD. Preparing to feign death. But didnt follow up with the message that says you prepare to take a hit. The word "feigndeath" in the combat cue wouldnt turn green.
Only happened to me that one time. I was inthe guild hall in Bestine by shuttle. I was solo. It works again now and I use it all the time, but havent tried it back there again.
My FD is keymaped to the * key on the numpad.
Message Edited by Golrok on 06-14-2004 09:27 PM
Duedroth
Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:50 pm
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PhoenixOrion wrote:
Also things I've noted over the past YEAR of playing this game (since beta - yes I tested swg beta):
Sorry to say this Phoenix, but you're still playing beta! only this time, you're paying for it.
Also, Feign Death has never ever worked for me. For awhile i was only 0/0/4/0 in Smuggler, then went 0/1/4/0, and am now proceeding to master it. However, back when I tried it multiple times in both PvP and PvE, it never ever worked for me, so I gave up on that skill (Pistoleers are used to giving up on skills) and moved on.
JimmyRay
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:14 pm
#13
D-Man_Bloodfin wrote:
What happened to feign Death. I Am a master smuggler, Yesterday i was in the geno cave and feign death siply didnt work. When i hit the shortcut it said "Prepairing to feign Death", nothing else happened .. i stopped fighting back, took a few hits and nothing. i could do /feigndeath as many times as i wanted. Nothing worked. anybody else is having any issues?
Also tried to relod..
D-Man
Yep. I've ran into the same problem myself. The FD icon shows on the combat queue, but never goes away when this happens. I also get the icon on my HAM bar like it should be, but I am still in combat & more importantly still up & running around. I have yet to see any ryhme or reason to it. PvE, PvP, different opponents, different weapons, buffs, no commonalities other than trying to FD.
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