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Thread: Armor....Does the bonus stack between professions?

MafetKhan
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:41 pm
#1

So if you are a master Pistoleer/ Master Smuggler...


Are your recon armor numbers :

Accuracy : 80%

Movement: 30%

Rate of Fire: 120%


or do they not stack?


Accuracy: 40%

Movement: 20%

Rate of Fire: 60%


Anyone know?



Col. Mafet Khan
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Smuggler/Pistoleer
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Akiram_Glockem
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:43 pm
#2

The latter, they don't stack. The highest one from a prof you have is the value that's counted.



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Rhu
Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:45 pm
#3






MafetKhan wrote:

So if you are a master Pistoleer/ Master Smuggler...


Are your recon armor numbers :

Accuracy : 80%

Movement: 30%

Rate of Fire: 120%


or do they not stack?


Accuracy: 40%

Movement: 20%

Rate of Fire: 60%


Anyone know?







Another possibility for stackingmight be:


Accuracy: 64%


Movement: 36%


RoF: 84%



Which would be a nice compromise between the two. Though I don't really know what is up with these bonuses, myself.


Edit: Though I guess Akiram does.

Message Edited by Rhu on 04-04-2005 11:46 PM

Orcajum
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:03 pm
#4

Here's a dumb question that's been bouncing around in my head for the last day or so.

Let's suppose you build a template that has certifications for two (or three) different sets of armor. We'll use a Smuggler/Commando template for example.

This would give you, I believe:
Assault Armor Accuracy Mitigation 40%
Assault Armor Movement Mitigation 60%
Assault Armor Rate of Fire Mitigation 20%

Reconnaissance Armor Accuracy Mitigation 40%
Reconnaissance Armor Movement Mitigation 20%
Reconnaissance Armor Rate of Fire Mitigation 60%

Now, what happens if you decide to mix-and-match parts of that armor? What if you're wearing Recon armor gloves, boots and leggings, and Assault armor chest, and helmet? (I don't know if there is a benefit to doing this or not, it's all hypothetical.) I'm wondering if there are ways to almost negate the negative effects some armor has, or to find a "balance point" by combining pieces of several types of armor together. SOmething that should be looked at anyway.



Orkajum'sydef
Master Smuggler
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Rhu
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:14 pm
#5

I think in one of the earlier posts it was mentioned that mixed sets across armor classes will have the worst attributes of all the classes, specifically so people couldn't create unbalanced armor templates.


That said, I don't really know what the armor attributes mean, exactly. Might be that I'm a lazy reader.
Obed
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:14 pm
#6






Orcajum wrote:
Here's a dumb question that's been bouncing around in my head for the last day or so.

Let's suppose you build a template that has certifications for two (or three) different sets of armor. We'll use a Smuggler/Commando template for example.

This would give you, I believe:
Assault Armor Accuracy Mitigation 40%
Assault Armor Movement Mitigation 60%
Assault Armor Rate of Fire Mitigation 20%

Reconnaissance Armor Accuracy Mitigation 40%
Reconnaissance Armor Movement Mitigation 20%
Reconnaissance Armor Rate of Fire Mitigation 60%

Now, what happens if you decide to mix-and-match parts of that armor? What if you're wearing Recon armor gloves, boots and leggings, and Assault armor chest, and helmet? (I don't know if there is a benefit to doing this or not, it's all hypothetical.) I'm wondering if there are ways to almost negate the negative effects some armor has, or to find a "balance point" by combining pieces of several types of armor together. SOmething that should be looked at anyway.




I think one of the EARLY CURB docs said that you'd get the least of all worlds... in this case, if you mix and match, you're looking at 40/20/20. Sad times.





Obed T'Bo'Akh / Andreau Tiqaras
"Yeah, what if you fell? Alas for the jigglybits" ~ Sakkra on Male Nude Cycling
yimaz
Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:18 pm
#7

I hate armor cert's



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Obed
Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:41 am
#8






yimaz wrote:

I hate armor cert's







I think it's a great idea. It'll keep us all from being composite clones. In fact, I'm looking forward to Composite Armor being vulnerable to my DL44! I hate composite armor...


Also, I love the idea that armor will have REAL penalties. Maybe we'll see folks fighting without armor again.





Obed T'Bo'Akh / Andreau Tiqaras
"Yeah, what if you fell? Alas for the jigglybits" ~ Sakkra on Male Nude Cycling
yimaz
Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:49 am
#9






Obed wrote:





yimaz wrote:

I hate armor cert's







I think it's a great idea. It'll keep us all from being composite clones. In fact, I'm looking forward to Composite Armor being vulnerable to my DL44! I hate composite armor...


Also, I love the idea that armor will have REAL penalties. Maybe we'll see folks fighting without armor again.







No one wants to see everyone in comp armor but they need to relax the certs a little (mabye double cert's per profession). Im sorry but after spending weeks getting the loot for RIS and only having it for a week plus the fact that padded is my "street" armor Im a little peeved about these certs. Im a smuggler/pistoleer and its stupid to go against my profession just to wear armor, they could have done something different cert wise as it stands its way to limited.



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

BelarrnSorak
Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:05 am
#10

i think quest armour should not have a cert, anyone should beable to use it. if you do the work then you should get the reward.

also i'm not a big fan of the armour certs. maybe if there was advantages of whereing one type of armour over another but you could put on any armour, would be a better system.

i like my ST armour, i like the look of it, but as a smuggler i only have the option of using scout and all my other armour is nothing more then a decoration and a reminder of the past battles i used it in.




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Obed
Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:25 am
#11

You can still wear that stuff... it's just not effective. Anyone can wear any armor, from what I understand. But the penalties for doing so are reduced based on your professions' role(s).


I'm gonna seriously miss fighting in ST gear. That was always my favorite. But the scout armor will be fun, too.


But it'll be cool to see it defined by role.


I REALLY feel for you RIS guys, though. That is looking like it's gonna kick quite a few people in the teeth.




Obed T'Bo'Akh / Andreau Tiqaras
"Yeah, what if you fell? Alas for the jigglybits" ~ Sakkra on Male Nude Cycling
yimaz
Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:51 am
#12






Obed wrote:

You can still wear that stuff... it's just not effective.- then whats the point? Anyone can wear any armor, from what I understand. But the penalties for doing so are reduced based on your professions' role(s). - see above


I'm gonna seriously miss fighting in ST gear. That was always my favorite. But the scout armor will be fun, too. - glad you get a new set to wear but rebels get none.


But it'll be cool to see it defined by role. - yes but there is no reason not to double cert armor per profession (plus for speed for light armor plus for protection med/heavy armor


I REALLY feel for you RIS guys, though. That is looking like it's gonna kick quite a few people in the teeth. /bow









Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Obed
Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:03 am
#13

Actually, I stand corrected... if you don't have novice in the class that uses a type of armor, you don't get to equip it. That's a bit of a bummer... I hope I'll be able to get a good price on used ST armor


That may have me dabbling in carboneer just so that I can wear the stuff...




Obed T'Bo'Akh / Andreau Tiqaras
"Yeah, what if you fell? Alas for the jigglybits" ~ Sakkra on Male Nude Cycling
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