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Thread: I love the changes that happend to smuggler....

16BitHero
Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:39 pm
#1

Hey all, I was Master Pistoleer/Smuggler 0040 pre cu, I'm not a RPer but I liked the RP fealing of being a smuggler. Whenever I play RPG's I like to tend to be the Rogue/Thief/Assasian/Ninja and in this case smuggler . When the CU came and I had reason to master smuggler I finnaly did, ( I diddnt see much reason to master it pre cu because my friend had an alt who could slice, and spices where cheap enough so it really wasnt worth it to me for pvp). Anyway I think smuggler fits its role so much now, I love being able to walk into theed overt and take downANY one man/woman and when the going gets tuff and I get outnumberd to panic shot and concussion shot everyone to make my escape. And if I'am really having troubles to just FD. I love how when I'am fighting a docter and there speed buffed and I'am not I can just lowblow them to get rid of there speed buffs. Or how when I cant stick an intimidate on someone I can just lower there resist and get out all my stats on them. Sure theres more things that would be cool for us to have but for now it's a really good leap foward from the old style of smuggler pvp.


Just trying to bring some opptomisum to the smuggler boards



Psyrick Topher


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SmugglerPie
Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:48 pm
#2

So... you like being a Smuggler that can't smuggle, has a new slicing system that's half broken, and gets completely ignored by the Devs?


Glad you're having fun, bro.



"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
16BitHero
Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:52 pm
#3






SmugglerPie wrote:

So... you like being a Smuggler that can't smuggle, has a new slicing system that's half broken, and gets completely ignored by the Devs?


Glad you're having fun, bro.





Well we're not COMPLETLY ignored, I mean we got our daze's fixed. But being able to smuggle would be fun. But how is the new slicing system half broken?



Psyrick Topher


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SmugglerPie
Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:56 pm
#4

Hmm, let's see. Critical slices don't work at all, damage slices aren't being applied correctly, we can't really tell if all of the armor slices are working correctly because not many people can afford or find enough components to slice a full set....


... am I missing anything?



"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Nezodon
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:00 pm
#5






SmugglerPie wrote:

Hmm, let's see. Critical slices don't work at all, damage slices aren't being applied correctly, we can't really tell if all of the armor slices are working correctly because not many people can afford or find enough components to slice a full set....


... am I missing anything?





You cant slice a bio-linked weapon, and this new system is nothing compared to the system they had in-concept (which has conviently disappeared).



Jorrai Takkori
Elder jedi
Force explorer

LaughingWolf
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:00 pm
#6

rflmao I just KNEW you would get slapped (if gently) for daring to enjoy yourself. Part of the place's charm hehehe

I can understand the reaction, mind you: lots of stuff to grumbles about in the state of our beloved profession. But glad you are having fun, it is what matter after all!


Edit: A few posts were posted while I was typing this. Yeah, the HUGE difference between the system we got and the one we saw In Concept worry me too. It make me fear to suddenly see on TC a dumbed down unsatisfying version of the In Concept thread on Smuggling.

Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 07-17-2005 07:02 PM



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16BitHero
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:01 pm
#7


Well I guess I wouldent know all that because I speed slice all my stuff /shrug



Psyrick Topher


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SmugglerPie
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:04 pm
#8

Just remember, youngster... they can nerf you, they can ignore you, but they can never take away the fact that you're a Smuggler, and Smugglers are just damn cool.


That is, cool in a nerfed, ignored kinda way.



"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
SpinningCloud
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:17 pm
#9

If I had just started playing SWG and/or a Smuggler I think I too would be just fine with the game. However I've been a Master Smuggler for over two years and in that time we have been lied to and ignored far too much for me to continue.


IF I were new to this I would probably think I could easily wait a few months for the devs to give me a great smuggling system and fix all the issues with slicing (OH, and you forgot that slicing components don't STACK in your list of problems).


However I'm not new and know, from SOEs track-record, that the chances of getting an engaging smuggling system is probably NEVER going to happen.


InnocenseIS bliss. I really wish I could return to that state. Sony you stole my innocense!






Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Ternque01
Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:31 pm
#10


I think you mean "Ignorance is bliss."


In this case, the ignorant producers of this game who milk the remaining cash from this game that they have killed are the only happy ones here. Well, they WOULD be MORE happy if they had let the developers fix the things that needed fixing, by giving the devs more time to make a quality product before launch, by standing by the devs commitment to keep Jedi rare, and by stop micromanaging the dev team by slowing the development process by requiring the devs to submit fixes to a lengthy approval process.


I have come to the realization that the dream that SOE and I shared, fostered, and developed from 2001 about this game is NOT shared, respected, or given the needed investigation to fix by the 'Producers' of this game.


The 'Producers'took our dream and shat over it, taking the twenty dollar bill from it before the poop landed. They may have ultimate knowledge of the Star Wars universe, but they seem to have little idea about MMORPG's, specifically their design or how to fix them. Keep shoving these bad decisions down our throats. I'm sure the only people left playing this game after a year will be those players who don't know/care that there will be 10,000 more times Jedi on the battlefield than in ANY of the Star Wars movies.


Keep making these "changes", 'Producers', without really investigating the root of the problems in this game. It doesn't take much work.... just LOOK at the Top 5 issues from each profession. That would take 15 minutes.





Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
SpinningCloud
Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:07 pm
#11






Ternque01 wrote:


I think you mean "Ignorance is bliss."





yeah, I wrote that originally but thought it was too harsh.


The decline of SWG started, for me, back when the game went into beta without the player generated missions that were so loudly touted in alpha. I didn't know it then but that was just the beginning of the sell-out by SOE.






Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

fluffybunnymittens
Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:47 pm
#12

Hey, if you're happier with a 40% broken profession than an 80% broken profession and eat every critical fix (out of five needed) like a good little puppy, then more power to you.

The desire to love this game is great, but if you bought a car from SOE and it couldn't turn left or right would you still try to enjoy it? Of course a patch would be coming out shortly to allow the car to turn left (to go right simply turn left three times).





Incompetent development team? ...check!
Inadequate server hardware? ...check!
Raph Koster? ...check!
SWG has gone gold!
LM
Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:35 pm
#13






SpinningCloud wrote:





Ternque01 wrote:


I think you mean "Ignorance is bliss."





yeah, I wrote that originally but thought it was too harsh.


The decline of SWG started, for me, back when the game went into beta without the player generated missions that were so loudly touted in alpha. I didn't know it then but that was just the beginning of the sell-out by SOE.








Innocence is bliss, too, SpinningCloud. Both statements are true. I know how you feel regarding your innocence being taken away.


And to all of you who are leaving; I understand, but I am still so sad that so many are leaving.


I was cranky earlier; I am now headed towards melancholy.





Lilac Moon

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There are no functional Smugglers in SWG; even Han cannot Smuggle.


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