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Thread: NEW Weapon Slice Costs....What do you think these should be around

tralita_tusnami
Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:20 pm
#1

Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 45% customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | 7% Increase | 70% customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (150k)
Level 4 | 12% Increase | 100% customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (500k)

Damage: (Apparently cannot slice over weapons damage cap, this should NOT take customisation points or components if you attempt a slice)
Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 40% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | 8% increase | 60% Customisation | Illegal Core Booster (500k)

Critical Shot Chance:
Level 1 | 3% Increase | 20% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 2 | 5% Increase | 60% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (150k)
Level 3 | 10% Increase | 100% Customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (500k)

Armour - Thanks to Inamalcus
Resilience: (Makes the armour keep effectiveness at lower conditions)
Level 1 | Drops after 40% | 25% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | Drops after 30% | 50% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | Drops after 20% | 75% Customisation | Shock Absorbant Padding (200k)

Impact Deflection: (Allows a chance armour isn't damaged when hit)
Level 1 | 20% Armour mitigate | 25% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 40% Armour mitigate | 50% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolkit(150k)
Level 3 | 60% Armour mitigate | 75% Customisation | Powered Motivators (300k)

Hardening: (Absorbs 50% of damage when hit)
Level 1 | 1% Absorbtion | 15% Customisation | None (5k)
Level 2 | 2% Absorbtion | 50% Customisation | Trandoshan Intraframe (300k)
Level 3 | 3% Absorbtion |100% Customisation | Mandalorian Intraframe (1million)

Armour Break Reduction: (chance to mitigate Armour Break effects)
Level 1 | 25% Armor Break Reduction | 20% | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 50% Armor Break Reduction | 40% | Shock Absorbant Padding (200k)
Level 3 | 75% Armor Break Reduction | 60% | Reactive Micro Plating (600k)


there cumlitave so if i slice a new weapon for 1-2-3 level dammage thats 555k + 1level speed 5k + level 1 critical 5k =565k for one slice.



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Elyaas
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:21 pm
#2

List a number in Paranthesis "(X)" (Replace the X for the people that....dont know....heh) that you think we should price all those slices at....I am really really bad at pricing....

Out of 800 WUK's (More like 820 or so) I got 8 Illegal Core Boosters just to give you an idea of the rarity

(NO TRIGGERS...I WAS PISSED)

Have fun

Weapons
Speed: (Apparently cannot slice over weapons speed cap, this should NOT take customisation points or components if you attempt a slice)
Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% customisation | No Components (X)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 45% customisation | Simple Toolkit (X)
Level 3 | 7% Increase | 70% customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (X)
Level 4 | 12% Increase | 100% customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (X)

Damage: (Apparently cannot slice over weapons damage cap, this should NOT take customisation points or components if you attempt a slice)
Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% Customisation | No Components (X)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 40% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (X)
Level 3 | 8% increase | 60% Customisation | Illegal Core Booster (X)

Critical Shot Chance:
Level 1 | 3% Increase | 20% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (X)
Level 2 | 5% Increase | 60% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (X)
Level 3 | 10% Increase | 100% Customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (X)

Armour - Thanks to Inamalcus
Resilience: (Makes the armour keep effectiveness at lower conditions)
Level 1 | Drops after 40% | 25% Customisation | No Components (X)
Level 2 | Drops after 30% | 50% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (X)
Level 3 | Drops after 20% | 75% Customisation | Shock Absorbant Padding (X)

Impact Deflection: (Allows a chance armour isn't damaged when hit)
Level 1 | 20% Armour mitigate | 25% Customisation | No Components (X)
Level 2 | 40% Armour mitigate | 50% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolkit(X)
Level 3 | 60% Armour mitigate | 75% Customisation | Powered Motivators (X)

Hardening: (Absorbs 50% of damage when hit)
Level 1 | 1% Absorbtion | 15% Customisation | None (X)
Level 2 | 2% Absorbtion | 50% Customisation | Trandoshan Intraframe (X)
Level 3 | 3% Absorbtion |100% Customisation | Mandalorian Intraframe (X)

Armour Break Reduction: (chance to mitigate Armour Break effects)
Level 1 | 25% Armor Break Reduction | 20% | No Components (X)
Level 2 | 50% Armor Break Reduction | 40% | Shock Absorbant Padding (X)
Level 3 | 75% Armor Break Reduction | 60% | Reactive Micro Plating (X)

(all above is stolen form 1 of the most usefull threads that are up ATM)-Balzan- Edited a little by me(http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=196948)



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Elyaas
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:22 pm
#3

BAH Crap....I spaced all the (X)'s out....now they are sitting right next to the end of the line BOO!!!



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TabethaMoore
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:41 pm
#4

You were pissed at no triggers? .. just imagine how pissed you would have been not knowing you had to uncrate your WUKs and AUKs, then i bet you would have been really pissed huh?


Just feel lucky you had some thing to convert and not got 100+ crates sitting there, think the paper i wipe my rear end has more worth than those crates i have.



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Elyaas
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:49 pm
#5

I am sorry to hear that :/......I wasnt exactly pissed but kind of like "What the Heck?!?!" just like that time that I Sliced 5 weaopns....3 came out 17% speed 3 came out 7% damage I think.....Its just wierd



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maxtheusher
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:56 pm
#6

I'm going out on a limb and doing a bit of a general scaling here.

3's and 4's drop off tough mobs right?

I'm charging 15k base, because that's the bare minimum my time is worth.

So let's scale this. Tier 2 slice... 30k. tier 3 slice, 90k. Tier 4, 180k. /shrug, that's based entirely off doubling. If the loot is worth more than I guess it should go up. But I haven't seen any valid pricing on loot yet.

Oh yea, and since slicing can't break caps, expect more basic slices than tier 4s....



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TabethaMoore
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:59 pm
#7

hey its ok, not your fault publish 19 screwed most of the smugglers over. ... Glad you were able to make use of what you had in some way ) ..... I'll just have to regroup and overcome. Might moan a lil bit about it to, very upsetting to know that something so simple [on most servers] solved the problem, just a shame that it was only mentioned on the forums.





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Elyaas
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:07 pm
#8







Elyaas wrote:
List a number in Paranthesis "(X)" (Replace the X for the people that....dont know....heh) that you think we should price all those slices at....I am really really bad at pricing....

Out of 800 WUK's (More like 820 or so) I got 8 Illegal Core Boosters just to give you an idea of the rarity

(NO TRIGGERS...I WAS PISSED)

Have fun

Weapons
Speed: (Apparently cannot slice over weapons speed cap, this should NOT take customisation points or components if you attempt a slice)
Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% customisation | No Components (20k)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 45% customisation | Simple Toolkit (50-100kl)
Level 3 | 7% Increase | 70% customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (200-500k)
Level 4 | 12% Increase | 100% customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (A LOT!!!)


(all above is stolen form 1 of the most usefull threads that are up ATM)-Balzan- Edited a little by me(http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=196948)




There....I deleted most of it....becayse I didnt wana be repeditive.....20k is bottem line....now.....thats just 20k for just a slice.....no fancy stuff like....three differend lvl 1 slices would be more then 60k......


We have to figure out a system too follow. Those toolkits, although are flooding the market ATM, are just gonna appreciate until there are no more....and the cost of a simple toolkit skyrockets. If we start prices decently high.....I think it would strengthen the economy......


Yes....that puts more money in smugglers pockets.....I am sure some of you trolls are laughing at this now saying "There is no way I am comming to you!".....Slices need to be rare.....slices need to mean somthing. If I am going to bu hunted over this (Which BTW....I cant wait till BH's can hunt us) I want my deal to actually mean somthing. The prices are probably not even going to be that low....customisation is going to raise those. The more effectivness you get out of that weapon, the more money we need too amuse ourselves while you show it off and land our names on a term.....



Just my 2c


/flamesuit on



BTW A little off topic....do the signatures on this forum use HTML codeing.....?? heh

Message Edited by Elyaas on 06-29-2005 10:11 PM



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tralita_tusnami
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:20 pm
#9

Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 45% customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | 7% Increase | 70% customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (150k)
Level 4 | 12% Increase | 100% customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (500k)

Damage: (Apparently cannot slice over weapons damage cap, this should NOT take customisation points or components if you attempt a slice)
Level 1 | 2% Increase | 20% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 4% Increase | 40% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | 8% increase | 60% Customisation | Illegal Core Booster (500k)

Critical Shot Chance:
Level 1 | 3% Increase | 20% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 2 | 5% Increase | 60% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolset (150k)
Level 3 | 10% Increase | 100% Customisation | Delicate Trigger Assembly (500k)

Armour - Thanks to Inamalcus
Resilience: (Makes the armour keep effectiveness at lower conditions)
Level 1 | Drops after 40% | 25% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | Drops after 30% | 50% Customisation | Simple Toolkit (50k)
Level 3 | Drops after 20% | 75% Customisation | Shock Absorbant Padding (200k)

Impact Deflection: (Allows a chance armour isn't damaged when hit)
Level 1 | 20% Armour mitigate | 25% Customisation | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 40% Armour mitigate | 50% Customisation | Finely Crafted Toolkit(150k)
Level 3 | 60% Armour mitigate | 75% Customisation | Powered Motivators (300k)

Hardening: (Absorbs 50% of damage when hit)
Level 1 | 1% Absorbtion | 15% Customisation | None (5k)
Level 2 | 2% Absorbtion | 50% Customisation | Trandoshan Intraframe (300k)
Level 3 | 3% Absorbtion |100% Customisation | Mandalorian Intraframe (1million)

Armour Break Reduction: (chance to mitigate Armour Break effects)
Level 1 | 25% Armor Break Reduction | 20% | No Components (5k)
Level 2 | 50% Armor Break Reduction | 40% | Shock Absorbant Padding (200k)
Level 3 | 75% Armor Break Reduction | 60% | Reactive Micro Plating (600k)


there cumlitave so if i slice a new weapon for 1-2-3 level dammage thats 555k + 1level speed 5k + level 1 critical 5k =565k for one slice.



_____________________________________________________
Some aspire to be the best, Thunderheart aspires to be just like me
"I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby."

Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER
Elyaas
Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:22 pm
#10

Thanks m8...finally a response....I dont think I am going to start selling mine for about a month....I want to see where this is going.....



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Treesquid706
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:02 am
#11

I'm currently charging 200cr per point of customization, plus the cost of tools. +15k for a basic kit and +25k for a fine kit. Any loot that's needed will either be buyer-supplied or astronomically expensive.

However, it would appear I should be charging much more.



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-ArkhoN-
Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:08 am
#12

500k for a frickin slice, lmao. No way am I come to any smuggler for a slice now, those pricings are nuts...


I remember the good ol days where 10k used to be the going rate, that's fine, but 500k? Come on, especially since it's like 500% harder to make money nowadays, mission credits being capped at 10k and so on.


I was looking forward of getting all this stuff I got on me to a fellow smuggler, but seeing this table of the credits you are expecting to get, no thanks.


Those 3s and 4s are "rare" loot drops? funny the first thing I got from loot yesterday was a DTA tho...



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TashunkaSapa
Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:04 am
#13

Then feel free to do it yourself.

That's the advice I always offer to someone who complains about someone else's prices.



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