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Thread: Commando to get Revamp before Smuggler? Hints inside from their Cor.

Waiting4Balance
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:15 am
#1







StarNick wrote:
"IMO we should push to be the next proffession revamped after ranger. Smugglers got a massive revamp in the CU that turned them into a combat proffession. Sure they still lack their 'smuggling' flavor content..but hey, commando LACKS content AND damage AND role AND its weapons are totally FUBAR. We should be priority."

Thats something I'm starting to push harder now...some other Corro's agree as well. Certain news, also hints at this but I'm still waiting for a follow-up and permission regarding it though...



http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=commando&message.id=106567

Message Edited by Waiting4Balance on 09-21-2005 05:17 AM

coldreboot
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:20 am
#2


Wow. That's one excessivly biased opinion.


He's forgetting the fact that while Commando may be worse off, They haven't had the carrot of hope dangled in front of their eyes three times already.


What they aren't promised, they aren't going to miss IMO.

Message Edited by coldreboot on 09-21-2005 02:21 PM



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KloudRunner
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:36 am
#3

well i think thats an incredibly cheeky thing to ask of the devs imo. I 'm not saying Commandos dont need any attention (hell i have incendiary 4) but theres a line here buddy lol. I have no doubt right now that SOE are trying to fix all the broken proffesions and the order looks like Squad Leaders, Rangers, Smugglers and then probably Commando. Most they would be waiting would be a month/ month and a half after our update. Now thats not really a long time to wait. However i will be p***ed off if after getting the incon treatment (yet again) we get pushed back (again). If that were to happen i dont see this update happening at all




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Jaguarrr
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:47 am
#4

When I read that it feels like a needle into my heart.



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Envoy3113
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:51 am
#5

Take it easy, its a corrispondant looking for some love after the pastseveralpublishes his players have been promised a fix that has never worked (IE AoE damage, which is exclusively the only thing that can define the class. Should have defined the class, and hasn't seince the CU docs came out labeling us as nukers). Commandos already have it hot with Rangers, no need to toss things like this around. Everyone is screwed one way or another, point fingers at the developers who are consistantly breaking the game rather than the people trying to make the best out if it



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Jaguarrr
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:58 am
#6






Envoy3113 wrote:

Take it easy, its a corrispondant looking for some love after the pastseveralpublishes his players have been promised a fix that has never worked (IE AoE damage, which is exclusively the only thing that can define the class. Should have defined the class, and hasn't seince the CU docs came out labeling us as nukers). Commandos already have it hot with Rangers, no need to toss things like this around. Everyone is screwed one way or another, point fingers at the developers who are consistantly breaking the game rather than the people trying to make the best out if it





I have seen other profs corrospondents go ballistic on our skills.


Since then I have the sudden urge to grab something by its hair and smash it repeadeatly against a wall, when I see a "now you can. =)"



I don't mind them getting a revamp. But it is about time I get my smuggling dammit.




We couldn't play SWG without Tiggs. Now we can =)
coldreboot
Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:10 am
#7






Jaguarrr wrote:





Envoy3113 wrote:

Take it easy, its a corrispondant looking for some love after the pastseveralpublishes his players have been promised a fix that has never worked (IE AoE damage, which is exclusively the only thing that can define the class. Should have defined the class, and hasn't seince the CU docs came out labeling us as nukers). Commandos already have it hot with Rangers, no need to toss things like this around. Everyone is screwed one way or another, point fingers at the developers who are consistantly breaking the game rather than the people trying to make the best out if it





I have seen other profs corrospondents go ballistic on our skills.


Since then I have the sudden urge to grab something by its hair and smash it repeadeatly against a wall, when I see a "now you can. =)"



I don't mind them getting a revamp. But it is about time I get my smuggling dammit.






Take heart Jaguarr, while I too am annoyed by this post I then realised that correspondants are a mediary between player and dev. They do not get to 'vote which prof gets revamped first'. That privilage is the devs, and the devs alone and given that they've already posted the smuggler stuff in concept, it looks like they made their decision a while ago.


/target CommandoCorr crotch


/tip beer


/target underpants


/drop pie


/kick


/


Message Edited by coldreboot on 09-21-2005 03:14 PM



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Envoy3113
Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:21 am
#8






coldreboot wrote:





Jaguarrr wrote:





Envoy3113 wrote:

Take it easy, its a corrispondant looking for some love after the pastseveralpublishes his players have been promised a fix that has never worked (IE AoE damage, which is exclusively the only thing that can define the class. Should have defined the class, and hasn't seince the CU docs came out labeling us as nukers). Commandos already have it hot with Rangers, no need to toss things like this around. Everyone is screwed one way or another, point fingers at the developers who are consistantly breaking the game rather than the people trying to make the best out if it





I have seen other profs corrospondents go ballistic on our skills.


Since then I have the sudden urge to grab something by its hair and smash it repeadeatly against a wall, when I see a "now you can. =)"



I don't mind them getting a revamp. But it is about time I get my smuggling dammit.





Take heart Jaguarr, while I too am annoyed by this post I then realised that correspondants are a mediary between player and dev. They do not get to 'vote which prof gets revamped first'. That privalge is the devs, and the devs alone and given that they've already posted the smuggler stuff in concept, it looks like they've made their decision a while ago.







Again, not to cause strife. Commando AoE has been 'fixed' per patch notes on 3 seperate publishes I belive and a handfull of hotfixes. By 'fixed' I mean actually in the patch notes that the AoE has been made to work. Of course all these 'fixes' were completely fubar. I belive the only stance he has left to take is 'don't forget that we are still broken you bastages'. I'm a commando/smuggler, but I'm also completely fed up with this games direction so I'm certainly not trying to lean in one direction or another. So much like all the promises smuggler has gotten, commandos are looking at:


'hey we fixed you',

'hey we fixed you again',

'I think we got it right this time',

'ok we screwed it up before, try now',

'ok, that didn't work either so we will just pull the notes from what was already published',

'ohh fack it, hey look a ranger...'



There comes a time in every mans life when 86 years is just too damn long...
Aendracon
Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:39 am
#9







coldreboot wrote:

Take heart Jaguarr, while I too am annoyed by this post I then realised that correspondants are a mediary between player and dev. They do not get to 'vote which prof gets revamped first'. That privilage is the devs, and the devs alone and given that they've already posted the smuggler stuff in concept, it looks like they made their decision a while ago.





While we certainly have been asking for a revamp on every appropriate or inappropriate occasion, we have never demanded priority over the other non-jedi professions. When the CH got their revamp, we cheered for the CHs. SL and Rangers got something good coming their way? Cheer for SL and Rangers!I wouldn´t even mind if DE and Commandos got their revamp before Smugglers, but any dumb@ss- coro or not - thinking he should try to get his profession priority over ours sure has lost favor with me.




Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
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AtomicFB
Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:52 am
#10

Well, someone was going to complain that we were going to get some luv'n. Their just jealous we have beer and pie and maybe...MAYBE we will get to smuggle.




"We Smugglers like beer and pie...
gggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Colonel Malicon Klem
ELDER SMUGGLER & STORM SQUADRON ACE

gggggggggggggggggggggggggg
and we stick Jedi with the tab"


teshma
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:07 am
#11

Hi,

I think you will find StarNick is just after a quick fix to Commandos main problems to make them viable in the short term :

1) Damage - sub par
2) AOE - still broken
3) Grenades - pretty worthless at the moment.

and his comments were in response to a post in there forum.
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tacwraith wrote:
"IMO we should push to be the next proffession revamped after ranger. Smugglers got a massive revamp in the CU that turned them into a combat proffession. Sure they still lack their 'smuggling' flavor content..but hey, commando LACKS content AND damage AND role AND its weapons are totally FUBAR. We should be priority."

StarNick replied :
Thats something I'm starting to push harder now...some other Corro's agree as well. Certain news, also hints at this but I'm still waiting for a follow-up and permission regarding it though...
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Hes just fighting his corner and trying to get fixes in like i'm sure Wes is for Smuggler.

So not really antything to get worked up about

Cheers
Teshma.
WesBelden
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:17 am
#12

Just so you know, I've not seen anything that indicates a Commando revamp (although I do hope there are plans for one), let alone one happening before the new Smuggling system gets developed. StarNick's comments may seem a bit tactless/insensetive towards long time waiting Smugglers if taken out of context, but I'm sure he's just trying his best to look after his profession and their needs; can't fault him for that.



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Unika
Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:30 am
#13

Weighing one against the other... if FD did absolutely nothing, and Panic shot did not fire a weapon... would you change your position. That is the problem Commandos face. Starnick wasn't talking about a total revamp as much as getting us some fixes for AE and our dmg+elemental problem before smugglers get a revamp.

Taken in part, or with the wrong assumption it could be looked at and taken wrong. Nick has always been supportive of smugglers. Commando as it stands now though is more broken than smuggler will ever be even without our content missions.



Unika Starrunner

Master Smuggler / Master Commando

"ALL BADGERS MUST BURRRNNNNNN!!"

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