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Thread: SOE brought me to this
Step by step I told him the handful of things that were good and working properly in game, as well as truckload of what was wrong and why he shouldn't get the game, untill SOE gets its act together.
He was glad he found someone who knew about the game, even though the information about the game wasn't good. I told him directly that even though we were losing money by not selling him that game, that I'd rather not sell him something he's not going to like, and keep a customer, than to sell it to him, and lose a customer.
What's bad, is that I used to always try to get not only my friends, but customers who wanted a massive game. I used to be one of their most devoted subscribers for SWG, but now I'm doing what I can to keep people from getting the game.
Fix the game. Make it what its supposed to be. Don't just shovel out new crap for a quick buck.
I feel your frustration.......as do us all.
But it has been said that the devs are useing the next couple pubs to fixing bugs as opposed to adding content. It might push the smuggler revamp back a bit(if it is still in existance). But if that is the case, the fixes will be welcome. just have to wait and see.
*crosses fingers, knocks on wood AND kisses lucky rabbits foot*
What SOE doesn't understand is that the problems in this game go much deeper than bugs. It's great that they're doing bugfixes. But some of the systems we have are fundamentally flawed and need to be replaced, especially pertaining to the various professions, especially Commando, Ranger, Squad Leader, and of course, Smuggler. I don't classify fixing those professions under either new content (unless they add some sort of mission system to it) or under bug-fixes. I'd classify it under "System tweaking."
Pushing back something that fixes a profession because you're doing bugfixes is just not right...
I've talked to several people who have only been playing for around 2 weeks. They've said it was one of the hardest and most fun games they've ever played and thoroughly enjoyed it. Who knows what tune they'll be singing later on down the road, but don't convince people not to buy the game. Assume they're an educated consumer and know the decisions they're making. This game still needs fresh blood and turning people away because you personaly don't like the game is a bad idea And just to play devil's advocate. If you are still playing, why are you still playing if you don't like it so much
JoKen_Jash wrote:
What SOE doesn't understand is that the problems in this game go much deeper than bugs. It's great that they're doing bugfixes. But some of the systems we have are fundamentally flawed and need to be replaced, especially pertaining to the various professions, especially Commando, Ranger, Squad Leader, and of course, Smuggler. I don't classify fixing those professions under either new content (unless they add some sort of mission system to it) or under bug-fixes. I'd classify it under "System tweaking."
Pushing back something that fixes a profession because you're doing bugfixes is just not right...
I'm just waiting for an announcement for a Combat Upgrade Revamp™.
And as for why I'm still playing, SOE has not yet crushed all of my hope, as long as there seems to be at least one dev who actually tries, its still there.
Message Edited by KureJiBaka on 07-31-2005 09:18 PM
JoKen_Jash wrote:What SOE doesn't understand is that the problems in this game go much deeper than bugs. It's great that they're doing bugfixes. But some of the systems we have are fundamentally flawed and need to be replaced, especially pertaining to the various professions, especially Commando, Ranger, Squad Leader, and of course, Smuggler. I don't classify fixing those professions under either new content (unless they add some sort of mission system to it) or under bug-fixes. I'd classify it under "System tweaking."
Pushing back something that fixes a profession because you're doing bugfixes is just not right...
Still, bug fixing upgrades is what people have been asking for for the last year. This could be the first sign that SOE has actually begun listening to us. And if this is the case, some of the broken proffesion s might see the light at the end of the tunnel...
It's sad that a game with so much diversity, appeal and potential is so lacking.
I am all for fixing bugs. This is something that they've needed to do since I started playing. Ideally, they should take one month out of every six and do nothing but bug-fixes until the game is clean.
However, this does not excuse them for lying to us about our revamp.
newbExtraordinaire wrote:
Still, bug fixing upgrades is what people have been asking for for the last year. This could be the first sign that SOE has actually begun listening to us. And if this is the case, some of the broken proffesion s might see the light at the end of the tunnel...
No, they've been all about fixing bugs for awhile now, it's just been bug fixes for one particular aspect of the game.
Sadly, nothing has changed. They have borked up so many things that to continue coding on top of it would be a catastrophe.
By them saying they're pushing new content to "long term development" tells me that there's either something big planned for the next expansion, or they're looking to trim down their roster. We used to get told there were seperate teams, even though all evidence points to the contrary. Now we're being told they're gonna fix bugs. They should have been doing a better job of this from the beginning.
This isn't about actually listening to players. It's about piling broken code on top of broken code and that will eventually catch up to you as it seems it has for them.
PS- If it really took them 2 years to listen to people asking for them to fix the game's bugs then we should be scheduled to smuggle sometime in about 4 years.
MISTagent01 wrote:
Lemme put it to you this way...if there was an expansion coming out within the next 6 months...you'd probably want to clean out your crappy code too.
BINGO!!!