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Thread: Admit it!!!

Boycarino
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:22 pm
#1


I've been wanting to talk about this here and finally can with NDA gone.


Any Neutral Pilot (potentially everyone in the game) can enter into the Smuggler's Alliance!!! Yes you got it right...ANYONE can talk to the likes of Talon Karde and become the closest thing to a real smuggler in space as you can be at this point. I repeat...YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE SMUGGLER PROFESSION IN ANY FORM TO BE IN THE SMUGGLERS ALLIANCE.


I'm not at all pleased by this.


Admit it...who else does this piss off?

Message Edited by Boycarino on 10-21-2004 06:24 PM



Iakko Qel-Dentari
No one special.
Just a smuggler.
"I do what I do, for I am what I am."

Permetheis
A little bit special
Jedi Knight
"Wonder...is the seed of knowledge"

Amen
Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:27 pm
#2

The fact they join the Smuggler's Alliance does not piss me off. They have need for their pirates, their escorts and their general blow-em-up pilots in addition to their smugglers.

So that doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is they have missions in Tier 3 and Tier 4 that have them actually smuggling cargo.

That, is what ticks me off.



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

kgmkiorys
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:31 pm
#3

and i guess you mentionned it as soon as you saw it, can we know what was the answer you got from them?



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Rik'kar Kiorys : Bothan Triple threat on Tyrena, Kauri

Scalime : Human Smuggler & Commando on Theed, Naritus
Chepaki : Human Smuggler Desperado on Coronet, FarStar

You never get a second chance to make a good first impression

Boycarino
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:34 pm
#4

Meh...perhaps perhaps...but the fact that the missions are identical whether your the "escort, blowem up, or smuggler" kinda makes it irrelevent to me. I think the smuggler alliance is cool for smugglers, man. And when I first joined up in beta I was stoked...


But when I realized every defense stacker, crafter, and dancer was able to have access to content that was so close to why I wanted to be a smuggler in the first place....heck the whole reason I bought the game...I was disenchanted.


I guess it is really only so offensive to me in light of the fact that smugglers have recieved so little attention as a profession...and then they go and dole out what should come to us to everyone in the game. It was more of a hurt than a pissed in retrospect. My widdle heart was bwoken.


I will completely get over it however if the Aliens only we can understand have good missions for us and they aren't crappy. Until then...I'm poutin!!!


Nah...I'll be over it after this beer.



Iakko Qel-Dentari
No one special.
Just a smuggler.
"I do what I do, for I am what I am."

Permetheis
A little bit special
Jedi Knight
"Wonder...is the seed of knowledge"

Amen
SanTsu
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
#5

I gave up being pissed along time ago.


I wouldnt expect anything different from them. I mean they dont care about professions except maybe Jedi. They do care about their customer base and anything that might keep people from playing like not being able to do smuggler missions will not be acceptable to them. I can just see them saying " Why just let smugglers smuggle that would mean others couldnt enjoy the fun.".



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Johny Longshoot
Master Smuggler/ Master Gunfighter/ Teras Kasi Master
Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Geevo
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:41 pm
#6

Eh, think of it this way. Any kid on the block can carry a package ... maybe it is a job interview (or internship)to see if he wants to become a Smuggler.



Col. Weiss, Knight of the Old Republic
Ace Pilot of the starship Errant Venture

Light Jedi Elder
Col. Geevo Deem, The most elder Smuggler on Intrepid
Founding Mayor: Veteran's Retreat on Lok
Boycarino
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:46 pm
#7

Geevo...that helps me a lot actually... Bit of an RPer so a little write off like that helps my troubled soul.


But the beer is helping also...


And I decided to listen to Enya to hurry along the healing.


All of this is true except the part about Enya.


Oh and the fact that I wrote "the" beer....should've been "those" beer"s"



Iakko Qel-Dentari
No one special.
Just a smuggler.
"I do what I do, for I am what I am."

Permetheis
A little bit special
Jedi Knight
"Wonder...is the seed of knowledge"

Amen
kgmkiorys
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:46 pm
#8

and why would he want to be a smuggler, that would bring exactly nothing more to him, appart from the title?


I felt it coming with giving access to the YT 1300 to anyone, they want everyone to be able to feel like Han, so they need to give them his job, smuggling. That'll hurt the smugglers community, but if you always kick the same people, you only have those ones unhappy?



_______________________________________________________________________
Rik'kar Kiorys : Bothan Triple threat on Tyrena, Kauri

Scalime : Human Smuggler & Commando on Theed, Naritus
Chepaki : Human Smuggler Desperado on Coronet, FarStar

You never get a second chance to make a good first impression

Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:48 pm
#9

C-forum Topic: Forget the Falcon, Han Solo wants a Sorosuub!




Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

He could run spice non-stop without getting shot out of the sky! No-risk,
big pay-off...


When the time comes for smuggler missions, I can only pray that I don't
see every smuggler taking out their sorosuubs to run their cargo without a
worry.




Another thread in the c-forum:





Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Well I am trying to see why smuggler and developer perceptions of
smuggling are so different. I'm getting some mixed impressions from some JTL
missions that to me scream smuggler... yet the replies we get are along the
lines of there being 'smuggling' and 'Smuggling'. Wish that could be nailed
down because as it stands it feels as if our domain is being violated in a
very horrible way








Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Heya, I think you missed what I was trying to get at.


It's not a question of revamp material, it's smuggler mission material
being given to everyone who takes up that piloting profession.


Destroy/patrol/escort missions, thats great! Yet when you have them
smuggling without picking up a box in smuggler, something isn't
right!








Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

I say this because there actually is smuggler content in JTL in mission
form. A couple privateer missions center around the smuggling of cargo, one of
them Tier 4, mission 2 of the smuggler's alliance.


I'm not asking for smuggler content, I'm just wondering why our mission
content is being just tossed out to anyone instead of keeping smuggling inside
the smuggler profession.








Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

It's a mission that pertains to smugglers in that the player who is doing
it is smuggling. Yet the player taking the mission does not have to be a
smuggler.


This argues against the very existence of a smuggler profession Why
should we be a smuggler then, if our mission content doesn't require us to be
a smuggler? I can be much more effective then with a different skill set. You
have said we are more of a space based profession and that's great. We can
wait. Just it seems our mission content is being given out to a piloting
profession.


It's as if you were giving bounty hunter investigation missions to someone
without bounty hunter. That type of mission should only be for bounty hunters,
a mission involving smuggling should be only be for smugglers.


I'm sorry, it just feels very wrong and I know a ton of smugglers are upset
because of it. It's not a crusade to turn the smuggler's alliance into a
smuggler's only club (Which is an idea I hate with a passion) but to keep our
mission content where it belongs.




Plus a bunch of other stuff that is covered in the beta forums. While the NDA
may not be in effect, I think quite a bit of that beta forum is still considered
confidential.

You want to know the main reply though? It was basically that JTL at
launch has nothing to do with smugglers and that we need to wait for our revamp.

Essentially they appear to have missed the entire point about it giving away our
mission content. I've been in IM conversations with them and sent numerous
e-mails but that is still the attitude they are maintaining.




The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:50 pm
#10

Geevo, the descriptions of that mission that I have received are much more than a simple package delivery. It's a run and gun smuggler mission where you have to dock with multiple ships to transfer cargo while other ships are trying to blow you out of the sky.



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

Boycarino
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:56 pm
#11

Stop...you're heating me up again...I'm going to have to buy another six pack...


Oh damn too late.


::looks around for Enya CD::



Iakko Qel-Dentari
No one special.
Just a smuggler.
"I do what I do, for I am what I am."

Permetheis
A little bit special
Jedi Knight
"Wonder...is the seed of knowledge"

Amen
Geevo
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:57 pm
#12






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Geevo, the descriptions of that mission that I have received are much more than a simple package delivery. It's a run and gun smuggler mission where you have to dock with multiple ships to transfer cargo while other ships are trying to blow you out of the sky.






I know C ... I am trying to be optimistic and to try and justify it.

At Beta release, I jumpted into the Smuggler alliance happy as a (fill in blank since my mind just blanked ) but upon learning more of how anyone can do it, I went to Rebel and spent the remainder of my time learning Rebel stuff because I had given up on the Neutral idea.


I am actually thinking of possibly going Imperial just for something different, but then I think of the big picture and I should probably wait until the next massive change from Imperial to Rebel (make the profits there) and then change.


If I remember correctly, I can be a Covert Rebel & Imperial Pilot? Is this correct? Do I need to have positive Imperial faction?




Col. Weiss, Knight of the Old Republic
Ace Pilot of the starship Errant Venture

Light Jedi Elder
Col. Geevo Deem, The most elder Smuggler on Intrepid
Founding Mayor: Veteran's Retreat on Lok
Geevo
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:58 pm
#13

...but then again, I do like Rebel ships more



Col. Weiss, Knight of the Old Republic
Ace Pilot of the starship Errant Venture

Light Jedi Elder
Col. Geevo Deem, The most elder Smuggler on Intrepid
Founding Mayor: Veteran's Retreat on Lok
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