Smuggler Archive
Thread: Admit it!!!
SanTsu
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:58 pm
#14
Well the missions sound like they will be cool to bad they have made it so everyone is a smuggler and smugglers are just drug dealers oh wait no one buys drugs becuase food is so much better. 
I know wait for the revamp. hehehehe
Geevo
Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:59 pm
#15
kgmkiorys wrote:
Thank you for giving us these Caylin, not that i didn't figure one second it was somehow different, i'm disgusted, of course won't buy jtl and wondering if i'm still staying on the ground, they'll have to be very persuasive.
On the revamp side i guess there is not a single news? or even a rumor of an eventual possibility of the appearance of a news someday? Say, why not, some red name coming here and giving us some hope? Is it still actual that GreenMarine is assigned to us as soon as jtl is launched? Do we have a chance to see him come back next week or is he again taken from us to work on some other random stuff?
Not buying JtL over one issue? You are missing out ...
Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:03 pm
#16
San, these missions are without a doubt, cool. When I was reading this stuff I was loving every bit of the description.
I'm just of the opinion that they sold out the smuggler mission content.
I think I'm going to take a break for a bit, this topic does me no good right now save really ticking me off. I love JTL so far, but I hate that some of their mission content is at the expense of smugglers.
I'm just of the opinion that they sold out the smuggler mission content.
I think I'm going to take a break for a bit, this topic does me no good right now save really ticking me off. I love JTL so far, but I hate that some of their mission content is at the expense of smugglers.
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
Boycarino
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:03 pm
#17
Hey I'm not happy about it, but JtL is pretty much rock and roll!!! I would still suggest the expansion to anyone who asked. I had lots of fun flyin in space. And imagine even more with my guildies. I'm a positve guy at heart...it's just at some point you gotta beg for the beatings to stop!
Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:05 pm
#18
My favorite ship though is without a doubt the multiplayer imperial ship. That thing is just fricking awesome and it's almost enough for me to switch sides.
BTW no, you can't be a rebel on ground and an imp pilot in space.
Rebel - Rebel/Privateer
Neutral - Rebel/Privateer/Imperial
Imperial - Imperial/Privateer
BTW no, you can't be a rebel on ground and an imp pilot in space.
Rebel - Rebel/Privateer
Neutral - Rebel/Privateer/Imperial
Imperial - Imperial/Privateer
kgmkiorys
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:12 pm
#19
Geevo wrote:
kgmkiorys wrote:
Thank you for giving us these Caylin, not that i didn't figure one second it was somehow different, i'm disgusted, of course won't buy jtl and wondering if i'm still staying on the ground, they'll have to be very persuasive.
On the revamp side i guess there is not a single news? or even a rumor of an eventual possibility of the appearance of a news someday? Say, why not, some red name coming here and giving us some hope? Is it still actual that GreenMarine is assigned to us as soon as jtl is launched? Do we have a chance to see him come back next week or is he again taken from us to work on some other random stuff?
Not buying JtL over one issue? You are missing out ...
that's not one issue, that's just the one over all the other ones, i already wanted to wait before nuying, to see what's on deck as Tiggs would say, now that i figure that we are NOT on deck, i'll wait, and when i get some hope, maybe i'll give them a little bit more of my money. But when i don't know what's coming for combat balance (where are these k...ing vision docs?), when i don't know if we ever have a revamp, when i don't know if the gcw may one day become something playable, sorry, that's 15 months i've been waiting for answers, and this one is not the one i wanted, once more.
Geevo
Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:13 pm
#20
Eh ... I can make up the cost for switching sides easy enough ... I think I will check into it (look for a bargain)...but I need to get my guild to ok it
korvass
Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:23 am
#21
Well the devs were right about one thing: there is no smuggler-specific content in JTL at launch. There's smuggling content, it's just not smuggler-specific. You've really gotta wonder what sort of design decisions are behind this. Surely it could not have taken much more time to...oh balls to it, what's the point? I've stuck out the best part of a year as a master smuggler, and never given it up once, despite all that's happened (or not happened in our case). But now I'm really starting to question the point of being a smuggler...
Datink_Nieleft
Fri Oct 22, 2004 5:01 am
#22
Smuggler,..smuggler,...
So what,..can we have bounty hunter content that isn't Bounty Hunting?
Thats straight bantha poodoo. I flew as a rebel pilot mostly during beta, I am dissappointed at now about going privateer in live.
Before you know it....slicing and Slicing.
<=====Old man of the forum says, " Sure there is big S in the game,...a big steamy pile of S"
Hollow
Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:02 am
#23
Datink_Nieleft wrote:
Smuggler,..smuggler,...
So what,..can we have bounty hunter content that isn't Bounty Hunting?
Thats straight bantha poodoo. I flew as a rebel pilot mostly during beta, I am dissappointed at now about going privateer in live.
Before you know it....slicing and Slicing.
Actually, come to think about it, I'm flying the Imperial line for beta and there are missions where you have to disable ships to capturethe person or you have to outright remove them from existance and you do get paid for it. I mean technically, I'm working for the Inquisition but its basically what bounty hunters do.
So what I'm saying is, we aren't the only ones in this boat. Granted I think the smuggling issue seems to be a bit more specific and I not happy with it, but I do have to admit, there are only so many types of content that you can actually do in space.
You can hunt and kill or destroy something, escort or defend something, deliver something, disable and capture something or explore. Thats about it. Thats what the devs have to work with for content for an entire population. In the end, its not much as far as variety. Granted, within those limitations, a lot of content can be produced.
Anyway, I'm not disagreeing with you guys, hell knows I want it to be smuggler specific content. I'm just trying to see it from their point of view.
KodaVeers
Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:20 am
#24
I guess i'll just Smuggle Jedi from point A to B and maybe save a princess in the process. It seems this is the only option we have. Maybe get some rebel guildies to attack me in the process to make me feel like im running from a boarding or something. Hopefully my hyperdrive will fail and i can yell at my trusty razor cat sidekick to go fix it.
Smugglin...the devs have left it up to us to use our imagination for content...cuz their to busy keeping jedi players in the game for there own companies benefit.
IndySWG
Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:26 am
#25
I worked up a few more ulcers in one of the beta forums over this and finally stopped.
Since then (quite a while ago) across all of my accounts I have logged maybe 15 minutes in game. I'm so disheartened I cant even bring myself to play the game long enough to save the harvesters that are about to poof.
I've been playing this game since the ground game was in beta, looking forward to smuggler love like everyone else ... and to me this was maybe the biggest slap in the face yet.
I mean, Blackman's comments for example can be excused as the thoughtless comments ofa single personwho knows nothing significant about the actual game play of the game or the discussions held by it's developers and players ... but this ... this was an entire development team; Creating missions that are the most robust smuggling mechanism in the game (and the only mechanism) and implementing it in such a way that a) you need not be a smuggler b) you need to have JTL c) anyone who fits a & b can do it ... while d) A real ground-only smuggler ... still cannot. And none of them thought anything about it!?
I tried to make the BH mission comparison too. I mean the BHs would be furious if anyone in the neutral pilot profession (for zero skill points) could take bounty missions in space. And whats sad is I believe the DEVs never would have let that happen ... recognizing it's BH content. But for some reason they are perfectly willing to make smugglers the worst smugglers in the game.
Since then (quite a while ago) across all of my accounts I have logged maybe 15 minutes in game. I'm so disheartened I cant even bring myself to play the game long enough to save the harvesters that are about to poof.
I've been playing this game since the ground game was in beta, looking forward to smuggler love like everyone else ... and to me this was maybe the biggest slap in the face yet.
I mean, Blackman's comments for example can be excused as the thoughtless comments ofa single personwho knows nothing significant about the actual game play of the game or the discussions held by it's developers and players ... but this ... this was an entire development team; Creating missions that are the most robust smuggling mechanism in the game (and the only mechanism) and implementing it in such a way that a) you need not be a smuggler b) you need to have JTL c) anyone who fits a & b can do it ... while d) A real ground-only smuggler ... still cannot. And none of them thought anything about it!?
I tried to make the BH mission comparison too. I mean the BHs would be furious if anyone in the neutral pilot profession (for zero skill points) could take bounty missions in space. And whats sad is I believe the DEVs never would have let that happen ... recognizing it's BH content. But for some reason they are perfectly willing to make smugglers the worst smugglers in the game.
I no longer believe they are anywhere NEAR the level of understanding / compassion of our issues as they claim to be ... and I just cant bring myself to play lately.
/shrug.
Message Edited by IndySWG on 10-22-2004 12:28 PM
Taln2
Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:33 am
#26
Datink_Nieleft wrote:
Smuggler,..smuggler,...
So what,..can we have bounty hunter content that isn't Bounty Hunting?
It kinda struck me - by given logic,there is BH content that isn't bounty hunting. We have destroy missions, and that themepark on dantooine that spawns the almighty Dark Jedi Master.
It all makes perfect sense now.