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I ran across someone that was telling they can get a % discount on faction items with Underworld.

Is that true? What is the benefit of having Underworld?

yup....either underworld 1 or 2...can't remember which...gives 10% discount on faction perks, also at master you get 25% discount

So it's late and I've been doing some thinking about underworld and here is what i've come up with.

Buying faction points is supposed to let you switch sides easily but there is a cap of 500. so if you have more than 500 negativve faction points in the other faction how does this help you switch easily? Simple, you're not supposed to move up in rank nor work for one side for too long.

This however creates some problems. There is no reason to increase your rank in a faction cause if you switch you lose that rank anyways. That being said, then you can't afford and of the upper tier perks since you can't collect enough pts due to the pt cap at ranks. You are also limited to how much you can do for a particular faction before you must change.

So say you have your 200 Imp fact pts, but are at - negative 250 rebel faction pts. You go to the recrutier pay for the rebel faction pts and bam you're a rebel. but then there is only so much you can do before you lower your imp faction pts before the deficit becomes larger than the 500 cap that you can buy.

In this senerio it surly makes switching sides easy, but is it worth it? I mean you'd only get a few faction missions or a fair amout of PvP in before you had to go make up for all the negative fation pts you just lost.

Not exactly what the description sounds like if you ask me. I want to do it but if they at least raised the cap on faction points you can buy a little higher then you could do more for a faction at a time than just 10 or less missions. It at least would make it an easy switch as they say it is.

I don't know for sure, but what I heard was that you could buy as much faction as you want but it caps your TOTAL faction at 500, so if you have -5000 Imperial faction, you could actually buy 5500 Imperial faction so it would make your total 500. I could be completely wrong I don't have much Underworld skill.

Iam rather new at being a smuggler and this point may have been brought up in advance, but what dose pistol xp have to do with underworld? I have a idea on what i think would make more like smuggling

how about you would have to run smuggler missions to get underworld xp also if you wanna take it a step further how about if we fail then there is a chance that a bounty be placed on us.

i know there is some issues that would have to be worked out but this is just a idea, what do you think ?

Nothing has anything to do with underworld.

It is there because they needed 4 trees and couldn't b e bothered to do the last one properly.

They just didn't have time. The devs are the first to admit that Smuggler was rushed out for the launch, and they still haven't finished it, though we all live in hope.

i have no clue if this has been brought up b4.. im sure it has.. but just in case.. theres just too many threads to go through every single one of them...lol

Underworld basically reflects ur standing in the criminal world right?

then whyInstead of using Pistol XP for underworld, did u get an "underworld xp" that is linked with spices and slices. for every amount of spice u sale, you get x amount of xp, and for every slices u also get x amount of underworld xp. wouldnt it reflect the smuggler job a bit more, make us feel a bit more like "criminals", and permit a character to gain pistol xp a bit faster to combine with pistoleer. it would also force holo grinders to actually sale spices and make slices and experience the whole smuggler experience

the only problem with it that i see is that ud get double xp while u were grinding slicing xp, or simply trading spices back and forth.. maybe a higher level of xp needed would fix that i dunno.... maybe someone has a though on this =)

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Le0r0n wrote:

if i have underworld 4 does that mean i can delegate faction at a lower cost to me? or buy faction bases cheaper?

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Okay sorry bout that....anyway I did look in the FAQ and didnt see that only saw how you can Buy faction from a recruiter

Um, Underworld 4 won't give you a decrease in your delegation ratio (it's your rank that makes the ratio better.)

Also, I believe you only get that extra discount for faction costs on bases and stuff when you hit master.


I could be totally wrong though.

Most of Smuggler is a complete waste of skill points