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Thread: Jedi breaking feign death
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Morthon
Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:44 pm
#1
I just watched a master healer break feign death on someone, so I know its for real. I am just wondering if our correspondent has brought this up to the Developers.
For the record I am neither a jedi nor a bounty hunter, I am a smuggler, and have been for nearly a year now. On our server there are now regular gank squads of jedi that load into every pvp battle that lasts for more than a few minutes. To counter this I have started to use feign in pvp vs jedi (LS's dont eat your armor), despite the fact I never used it before in pvp except to be bait. I had someone tell a master healer to pull me out but he didnt do it. But after tonight I know it can be done and Im not happy. Between the spice recovery nerf, panic shot nerf, autopull nerf and whatever else I dont think we should accept another skill being shot to hell.
This may not be a huge problem now, but jedi numbers are growing rapidly. (BTW the jedi I saw do it tonight was not involved in the duel, just walked away and back, did something to the smuggler and up he popped. Oh yeah and the smuggler was only feigning in a duel so the jedi could prove it was possible to pull him out)
Nipplehead
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:19 am
#2
this was done to me tonight by a jedi knight
from what i understand they have to be a master healer to break the feign
it was so bad ass to watch it be done to me, all kinda lightning and junk round me 
Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:48 am
#3
Yup, Wes has most certainly brought that up. It's 'working as intended' I believe.
There is also another force power that does it...
There is also another force power that does it...
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
Delroh
Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:49 am
#4
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
The devs probably did it so that Jedi have a way to get Bounty Hunters with a mission on them up so that they can be killed. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's my guess as to why it does that.
Not that I like it but H T F is that fair?!?!?! So Jedi can bring a BH out of FD but a BH cant do a damn thing to a Jedi to ge tthem out of it........
Thats about RETARDED.........
Council Member of the SHJO
maxtheusher
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:11 pm
#6
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
It's 'working as intended' I believe.
Working as intended? I'm not one to really say this kind of thing, but WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH THE DEVS? AND WHY DO THEY HAVE SUCH A STIFFY FOR JEDI?
Jedi can do other people's jobs better than their own already. They can instantly heal someone's wounds and BF completely, even mind. They have ranged and melee attacks, they can BLOCK COMPLETELY ranged attacks, they can run faster than anyone else, they can do all this and more.
Which is fine, I'm cool with that, SO LONG AS THERE'S LIKE TWO ON THE F*CKING SERVER, AND THEY'RE AFRAID TO USE THEIR F*CKING POWERS. Now BH's can't even feign if the guy's got one of a couple force powers...
To the person who mentioned jedi gank squads. On starsider there is now a guild named GANK, with their own city, GANKED.
I went out to the blacksun spawn on Endor, which I solo for both the challenge and the loot. 4 JEDI's and their DOTwhore buddies Camping it.
This is not to say all Jedi are bad, I know a few who are not like this, and keep their power using to a minimum, but I mean WHAT THE F*CK, This is getting out of hand.
Daturaze
Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:27 pm
#7
Delroh wrote:
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
The devs probably did it so that Jedi have a way to get Bounty Hunters with a mission on them up so that they can be killed. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's my guess as to why it does that.
Not that I like it but H T F is that fair?!?!?! So Jedi can bring a BH out of FD but a BH cant do a damn thing to a Jedi to ge tthem out of it........
I posted last week (or was it this week? Hmmm..... the mind is going - too much muon) that the responsible smuggler should, upon seeing either a jedi or bh FD'ing to whip out your bomb droid and "encourage" them to wake up.
Who knows, maybe BH will start asking Smugglers to come along with them when they know they'll be dealing with a Feigner.
Cheers
Dat
Nicolas_Frost
Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:50 pm
#9
The devs probably did it so that Jedi have a way to get Bounty Hunters with a mission on them up so that they can be killed. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's my guess as to why it does that.
Bohdi-Tzu
Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:40 pm
#10
Hmm I have to say as a long time smuggler I have no problem with this. From a continuity standpoint it makes sense that a jedi would be able to sense that someone is not truly dead.
Is it fair that a jedi could 'raise' a BH and not the other way around? Not sure on that one. BHs do get the first attack, and a jedi might not even know someone was after him. I'm sure it's frustrating for a BH to track a jedi, almost get the incap, and then have the mark go FD, but no more frustrating than for a jedi to have a BH and his gtef-gank squad pile on and erase 3 or 4 days of xp in seconds. Just my opinion...
Is it fair that a jedi could 'raise' a BH and not the other way around? Not sure on that one. BHs do get the first attack, and a jedi might not even know someone was after him. I'm sure it's frustrating for a BH to track a jedi, almost get the incap, and then have the mark go FD, but no more frustrating than for a jedi to have a BH and his gtef-gank squad pile on and erase 3 or 4 days of xp in seconds. Just my opinion...
Morthon
Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:55 pm
#11
Bohdi-Tzu wrote:
Hmm I have to say as a long time smuggler I have no problem with this. From a continuity standpoint it makes sense that a jedi would be able to sense that someone is not truly dead.
Is it fair that a jedi could 'raise' a BH and not the other way around? Not sure on that one. BHs do get the first attack, and a jedi might not even know someone was after him. I'm sure it's frustrating for a BH to track a jedi, almost get the incap, and then have the mark go FD, but no more frustrating than for a jedi to have a BH and his gtef-gank squad pile on and erase 3 or 4 days of xp in seconds. Just my opinion...
I dont give a damn about BH or Jedi, I am a smuggler and this is one of the few skills we get. I mean they do this without even getting a tef, thats just insane. This is just one more example of "Screw you" to the smugglers.
FrankLee
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:03 pm
#12
Delroh wrote:
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
The devs probably did it so that Jedi have a way to get Bounty Hunters with a mission on them up so that they can be killed. Doesn't mean I like it, but that's my guess as to why it does that.Not that I like it but H T F is that fair?!?!?! So Jedi can bring a BH out of FD but a BH cant do a damn thing to a Jedi to ge tthem out of it........
Thats about RETARDED.........
I believe anyone with the appropriate marksman skill can bring someone out of FD.
At least that's the way it used to be.
Bry5
Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:04 pm
#13
BH's can use "BOOM BOOM" droids too, so they can just blow up a jedi who is feigning right? If so, a bunch of jedi are gonna die soon...
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