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Thread: Anyone else notice Haden's comment about...

SolRetriever
Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:39 am
#1

Tha GCW revamp. Haden mentioned in the Gamespot interview that we can expect the GCW "hopefully this time next year" (October 2005)....

SO MY FELLOW SMUGGLERS, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!

We were told we would get our smuggler revamp after the GCW revamp right????

CONCLUSION: EXPECT THE SMUGGLER REVAMP SOMETIME AROUND SPRING 2006!!!!!!

nuff said



Rammel Lynterrus
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SharkBoy007
Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:40 am
#2

Where is this gamespot interview?



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SolRetriever
Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:46 am
#3

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/starwarsgalaxiesjumptolightspeed/media.html?gcst=swgjump_pc_92904ot4.asx

You can find the link on the galaxies home page where it says haden interview #2, It show a video and towards the end you get to hear what the devs plans are on the GCW.

They plan to milk all us players for all we're worth!!! A whole year before we can expect the Galactic Civil War Update. And probably 1 1/2 to 2 years for a smugg revamp



Rammel Lynterrus
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Smuggler_Caylin
Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:50 am
#4

They are telling me that we are after the combat revamp not the GCW revamp.



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SolRetriever
Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:02 am
#5


but in the Interview, Haden noted that they (the devs) should have all of that (meaning the GCW and combat revamps)revamped by this time next year.


Go to minute 5 of the 6 minute interview. He says this right at the end.


Now he could mean just the GCW but it sounds like he means the combat and GCW revamps. Either way we seem like a looong way off



Rammel Lynterrus
The Underground Smuggler
Trioth
Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:13 am
#6


Before you start panicing, go back to the site and look when that interview was posted....






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Neckromilion
Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:35 am
#7

Not that old if it is 7/14/04 that is still 9 months. That is a LOOONNNNGGGG time for something that has been promised for 9 months aready. I just want the GCW as I rairly PvP there are other games out there that have balanced PvP. Unless AT-AT are taken away it will never be balanced.Most of all I want the smug revamp. I have been wateing to smuggle sence about the 2nd month after the game wentlive.
PillowTech
Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:57 am
#8



Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
They are telling me that we are after the combat revamp not the GCW revamp.



Thank goodness!



26 August 2003 - Devs make their first detailed promise to overhaul the Smuggler profession.

27 September 2004 (03:10 PM) - Smuggler_Caylin tells fellow smugglers that he is stepping down as Smuggler Correspondent.

23 November 2004 - PillowTech switches to World of Warcraft.
Jibbrish
Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:59 am
#9

Love smuggler, looking forward to the revamp but...


the GCW should be the priority. No war is, IMO the main issue with the game. Not a issue, not a problem but the MAIN issue with the game. Having a functioning GCW would create content, improve player interactions and alleviate alot of the "i'm bored" posts. The decision to push it back beyond JTL was the wrong one.



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ZarrnOrion
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:21 am
#10


Here is the response I got from SOE after reporting them to the Better Business Bureau about lying to us on the Smuggler Revamp and also having shoddy CSR Support:





I regret to hear about the bugs that you have encountered in the Smuggler profession of Star Wars Galaxies. I can see why you might believe that we refuse to fix these bugs, however we remain very dedicated to the quality support of this title. I would suggest that you file constructive bug reports when encountering these issues through the use of the /bug command while in game – although do not file more than 1 bug report per bug. Doing so will ensure that these bugs are properly documented and assigned to be fixed – it will not ensure a time schedule when they will be fixed, however. There are clear priorities in terms of the bugs that are fixed and the new content that is to be implemented, which have been decided in the best interest of the game as a whole. It’s unfortunate that these priorities do not seem to benefit you at the moment, but rest assured any real bugs will be fixed.

It is an incorrect assumption to say that anyone who posts on our message boards about a problem is banned. Constructive posts that just list details and do not jump to conclusions or post inflammatory remarks are never banned. Those posts that result in bannings or at the very least a locked post are usually over-emotional or downright derogatory.


I am sorry to hear that you have had tickets replied to incorrectly. If there are any current issues that have not been resolved as a result of this happening, please reply with your station name, server name, character name, and a brief description of the problem, and I will be happy to forward this along to our in game support representatives. Also, please note that our in game customer service representatives are not technical support representatives, so this may account for a lack of help with the technical issues that you have encountered, if you have been contacting them with regards to technical (hardware related) issues. If you continue to have technical issues I would encourage you to telephone Monday through Friday 9:00am through 1:30pm and 3:30pm through 6:00pm PST at (858) 790 -7827.







So basically...nothing will get fixed, even if you complain to the better business bureau that SOE lied to customers. Woo hoo!

Nerj
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:24 am
#11






Jibbrish wrote:

Love smuggler, looking forward to the revamp but...


the GCW should be the priority. No war is, IMO the main issue with the game. Not a issue, not a problem but the MAIN issue with the game. Having a functioning GCW would create content, improve player interactions and alleviate alot of the "i'm bored" posts. The decision to push it back beyond JTL was the wrong one.







Have to disagree here on this, remember the posts on non-consentual PvP for Smuggler? The outrage that was done over this. PvP which is the GCW that you are talking about is a small portion of the population. While I agree that the GCW revamp is long overdue, the Smuggler Revamp should be done prior to this, as one of our lines (underworld) is usable only for the GCW. In additon, any GCW content is currentlly created by players. Besides JTL will add some GCW content too.




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FlyinDuke
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:39 am
#12






ZarrnOrion wrote:


Here is the response I got from SOE after reporting them to the Better Business Bureau about lying to us on the Smuggler Revamp and also having shoddy CSR Support:





I regret to hear about the bugs that you have encountered in the Smuggler profession of Star Wars Galaxies. I can see why you might believe that we refuse to fix these bugs, however we remain very dedicated to the quality support of this title. I would suggest that you file constructive bug reports when encountering these issues through the use of the /bug command while in game – although do not file more than 1 bug report per bug. Doing so will ensure that these bugs are properly documented and assigned to be fixed – it will not ensure a time schedule when they will be fixed, however. There are clear priorities in terms of the bugs that are fixed and the new content that is to be implemented, which have been decided in the best interest of the game as a whole. It’s unfortunate that these priorities do not seem to benefit you at the moment, but rest assured any real bugs will be fixed.

It is an incorrect assumption to say that anyone who posts on our message boards about a problem is banned. Constructive posts that just list details and do not jump to conclusions or post inflammatory remarks are never banned. Those posts that result in bannings or at the very least a locked post are usually over-emotional or downright derogatory.


I am sorry to hear that you have had tickets replied to incorrectly. If there are any current issues that have not been resolved as a result of this happening, please reply with your station name, server name, character name, and a brief description of the problem, and I will be happy to forward this along to our in game support representatives. Also, please note that our in game customer service representatives are not technical support representatives, so this may account for a lack of help with the technical issues that you have encountered, if you have been contacting them with regards to technical (hardware related) issues. If you continue to have technical issues I would encourage you to telephone Monday through Friday 9:00am through 1:30pm and 3:30pm through 6:00pm PST at (858) 790 -7827.







So basically...nothing will get fixed, even if you complain to the better business bureau that SOE lied to customers. Woo hoo!






Dude, you actually reported SOE to BBB because they didn't do the revamp


Do you know how bull*** that make me feel. To believe that because they are working on other code, you reported them. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND HOW REDICULOUSLY HARD IT IS TO PROGRAM A GAME OF THIS MAGNITUDE


Seriously, they haven't done many profession upgrades recently. and I don't mean one or two things, I mean a REVAMP. Why you ask? Because they are working on JTL. JTL IS LIKE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME!!! Do you realize how they have to merge these two different games into one giant MMORPG.


I think we should all have gotten an apology of some sort due to the fact that the revamp has been bumped further back, but I don't think you should have even got a REPLY from SOE because you called the BBB on them, OVER A REVAMP.


IF YOU DON'T WANA WAIT, CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT





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Jibbrish
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:59 am
#13









Nerj wrote:


Have to disagree here on this, remember the posts on non-consentual PvP for Smuggler? The outrage that was done over this. PvP which is the GCW that you are talking about is a small portion of the population. While I agree that the GCW revamp is long overdue, the Smuggler Revamp should be done prior to this, as one of our lines (underworld) is usable only for the GCW. In additon, any GCW content is currentlly created by players. Besides JTL will add some GCW content too.







Although PvP is the main component for a functioning GCW it is not the only component. A functioning GCW would and should engage all professions as they would be contributing to the war. The players that have maxed their characters, done the mission, quests, got the badgesetc are bored because there is no 'end game' which, i believe, and has been stated by the dev's, is exactly what the GCW is, an 'end game'. While your comment that current GCW content is created by the players is true, that is not at all what a functioning GCW would or should be. Right now we fight one meaning skirmish after another, with no relation between them, contributing nothing to a greater war ... because there is no war. A functioning GCW would make battles mean something in a bigger context (ie a war), would give a reason to plant a base, to hold a base, to defend a base and to conquer a base.


Wouldn't it be nice if people actually wanted faction points?


Non PvP professions would be needed, not for a break between grind sessions but in the context of running battles where support personel would need to be defended because your side will lose without them. Musician, dancers and docs would be required in triage centers for large battles. Smugglers would be needed for base take downs and for the quick fp that will enable turret placeing and possibly faction armor (if it ever becomes useful).


And from what i've seen of JTL, i can see no more war there than is currently on the ground.


Please don't get me wrong, there is no doubt that a smuggler revamp is needed and hopefully can be done concurrently with the combat revamp and the GCW revamp but in my opinion, the most needed thing in this game is a War.




Message Edited by Jibbrish on 10-05-2004 02:02 PM



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