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Message Edited by Lindz- on 06-09-2004 10:59 AM
don't let our situation spoil the general good nature of this forum. that would be absolute worse thing that could happen. Our beef isn't with players, its with the staff, and let us all keep that straight in our heads.
To the original poster, there are many threads discussing the matter already. A few are stickied. Theres one in particular addressed to non smugglers, but you should read it too.
But in general we all can agree that there are useful things in the profession. DF is a wonderful compliment to pistoleer making it almost not broken itself. Underworld is a great compliment to a ranking official in the GCW. Everyone in the game uses a slicer. Even Spices had seen glory at one point in time. This is something we all agree on.
The "beef", as you put it, is while playable in the game as a profession we really aren't much of of a profession at all but a pile of random skills, and we certainly arn't "smugglers". Without rehashing everything said over the last year this problem is evidenced in two ways - the sum of our parts are nowhere near as useful as the individual parts (I myself am 0440 and only that much cause i make wads of cash selling tools) - and nothing we do, except *maybe* terminal hacking but we have R2s for that work - at all has anything to do with smuggling, but instead being some type of criminal. Corrupt Imperial Officials, corner drug dealers, and gun show junkies selling semi-autos turned fully-auto do not smugglers make.
Message Edited by Ragnaat on 06-08-2004 04:40 PM
Lindz- wrote:
Guys I just can't understand whats going on in here recently, I was master smuggler for 4 months maybe longer, and made more money and more abilitys than with any other profession in the game, you have 2 of the best pistol moves in the game, if not THE best. You have the potential to make more cash than ANY other profession, when I was Master Smuggler I was making 10-20 million credits a night selling FP. You have the ability to open your own locked containers without risk, you get cheap faction pets and items. You can slice weapons and armour which is fun when you let it be. You can make buff spices which are still totally essential to the game, you have an active part in the galacticcival war and easy enterance to any big guild due to your roll....... you have more diversity in your class than any other. I LOVE smuggler and always will, and always did while I was smuggler. It has little problems but yet I see people whining like its the most broken class in the game, wake up call its sooooooo far from it. Try looking in the other profession forums and see what really broken professions really look like. My point is this you guys have a great class which given the chance you can enjoy. And the argument about needing other combat professions just to support the speed needed for your pistol moves..... YES you do, Smuggler is a support combat profession and you should seek out another class to support your speed. YOU GOT THE LOVE, your getting more love with the SEP, so come on give it up and enjoy the damn game for once.
Yes,but which of the above actually warrants us being called smuggler? Slice Monkey maybe? Or Dealer?
Want we want is the ability to actually smuggle
Thats our Beef
Yeah, projects get pushed back and re-prioritized. It happens. There is a difference between telling a lie and missing an target. When you have a large scale development project then you have to make many critical decisions and you have to re-prioritize things. People will yell and scream for an ETA from the devs. Over and over the devs have indicated that it is against their policy to give an ETA. People keep demanding one anyway so they share some ideas and hint at a target then people call them liars and such when they cant meet it. The only mistakes the devs did here was to even hint that you were being thought of in the first place because when things change then you will twist everything and make it into something it is not.
I think it is this attitude right here that is so frustrating, perhaps because I am a developer myself. You see I will have people give me specifications to develop something, they want an estimate, I give them one. They then change all of the specifications and move the priorites around then 4 months later say ‘Well you said back then that you would give this to me by this date when "this" is no longer even what "this" was back then.
Well the fact is that the nature of development is a very difficult task. I think many people very simple jobs where they complete the same repetative tasks over and over each of which take about 15-30 minutes to complete. These people have a very difficult time understanding the nature of managing and developing a huge project which is why they are playing the game and not on the development staff.
But the origial poster made a point which is what I have been saying. The smuggler profession is a great profession compared to many others. It is definitely not one of the worst. We say we want to really smuggle, which is a valid point but the devs have said that it would be best for that to happen in space.
Calling the developers liars and slandering them is what is so venomous. The way some people make it sound, smuggler is one of the most screwed up professions in the game. When I decided that this was what I wanted to do, I came to the boards. I was really depressed because many people made it sound as if this was the crappiest profession in the game. I knew this was what I wanted to role-play so I went ahead and mastered smuggler anyway to find out that it is one of the best profs in the game.
You would NEVER know there was anything good about being a smuggler by most of these angry posts I think one of the issues here is the only thing many people have to argue about is the fact that the devs are evil, they "lied" (missed some targets due to priority shift)
I do feel a concern for some of the people here. If they react to everthing in life when things do not go exactly their way in a similar manner… they are gonna have terribly unhappy lives.. Maybe that is why they are so angry.