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Lindz-
Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:25 pm
#14






JacobKell wrote:





Lindz- wrote:

Guys I just can't understand whats going on in here recently, I was master smuggler for 4 months maybe longer, and made more money and more abilitys than with any other profession in the game, you have 2 of the best pistol moves in the game, if not THE best. You have the potential to make more cash than ANY other profession, when I was Master Smuggler I was making 10-20 million credits a night selling FP. You have the ability to open your own locked containers without risk, you get cheap faction pets and items. You can slice weapons and armour which is fun when you let it be. You can make buff spices which are still totally essential to the game, you have an active part in the galacticcival war and easy enterance to any big guild due to your roll....... you have more diversity in your class than any other. I LOVE smuggler and always will, and always did while I was smuggler. It has little problems but yet I see people whining like its the most broken class in the game, wake up call its sooooooo far from it. Try looking in the other profession forums and see what really broken professions really look like. My point is this you guys have a great class which given the chance you can enjoy. And the argument about needing other combat professions just to support the speed needed for your pistol moves..... YES you do, Smuggler is a support combat profession and you should seek out another class to support your speed. YOU GOT THE LOVE, your getting more love with the SEP, so come on give it up and enjoy the damn game for once.








Yes,but which of the above actually warrants us being called smuggler? Slice Monkey maybe? Or Dealer?


Want we want is the ability to actually smuggle


Thats our Beef







I think your going too very soon, SEP is where your class needs the attention, I think it will get it, if it doesn't I agree you guys will have a hell of a lot to complain about



Stefanie' Irige
Jedi Knight


Force Holocron Vendor -425 -5570 Coronet (750m from starport) - 750k each, always the same price, always in stock! - Jedi shouldn't leave home without one!


Lindz-
Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:41 pm
#15

Re-read my post there is no back stepping, I pointed out all the good in my first post, in addition there are very few people who have been a smuggler a year here. I've been here since release like a select few in this smuggler forum, I'm not bashing you at all, read the posts in this forum, look at 90% of them, thats what i'm talking about.





yimaz wrote:
Lindz, come on, you come in here and teat smugglers who have been smugglers for a year like N00bs that dont see the good in the profession and your not even nice about it. You dont think people who playedthis professionfor more then a month or 2 dont know what is good about smuggler? Why do you think they have been smugglers for so long? Then with out any knowlege of what wehave been told for almost a year you havethe gall to ask whatis theproblem and we need to be happy for what we have?Dont try and back step and say you were pointing out the good we know full well why we are smugglers and dont need a flamer like you to point it out. Now go find another holo to open.



Stefanie' Irige
Jedi Knight


Force Holocron Vendor -425 -5570 Coronet (750m from starport) - 750k each, always the same price, always in stock! - Jedi shouldn't leave home without one!


Lindz-
Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:48 pm
#16

I didn't dis anyone, stop taking things so personally, christ you'll have an early heart attack, everything in my statement was a generalization, intended to spark up a good conversation which it has, Smuggler was and still remains in my top 3 loved professions behind BH and Jedi, which have there own set of issues.. Now your saying that I can't base my opinion on the last two days, this is the first time I've came to this forums in a few month and I read the first 2 pages of posts and saw what I saw, if your saying that this is just a ball of gas that exploded the last couple of days, fine someone explain it and converse about it, there has been a few quality posts on this thread so far, that was what I was looking for, note my thread title is a question.



Stefanie' Irige
Jedi Knight


Force Holocron Vendor -425 -5570 Coronet (750m from starport) - 750k each, always the same price, always in stock! - Jedi shouldn't leave home without one!


fishbrains
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:00 pm
#17






Lindz- wrote:

I didn't dis anyone, stop taking things so personally, christ you'll have an early heart attack, everything in my statement was a generalization, intended to spark up a good conversation which it has, Smuggler was and still remains in my top 3 loved professions behind BH and Jedi, which have there own set of issues.. Now your saying that I can't base my opinion on the last two days, this is the first time I've came to this forums in a few month and I read the first 2 pages of posts and saw what I saw, if your saying that this is just a ball of gas that exploded the last couple of days, fine someone explain it and converse about it, there has been a few quality posts on this thread so far, that was what I was looking for, note my thread title is a question.






Spice is all but useless, Underworld line does nothing for the Neutral smuggler, the DF line is half broken, I personally hate slicing and I'm sure many others agree with me, and finally our master box is empty. What most of us want is not to be drug makers (spice) or hackers (slicing) we just want to get your illegal 5hit from point A to point B with no imperial entanglements.



Joras 'Godfather' Kal'lan/Aethen Dor

Master Smuggler/Master Officer
Sunrunner's Elder Smuggler


Ryutek
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:00 pm
#18

Well, I was going to respond to your post point by point, but I noticed I was just reiterating the same thing over and over.


We do not smuggle.


What does this mean? We do not do what we are supposed to do (our namesake). We do not smuggle.


Did you pick up Smuggler because of the name, or the skillset? I picked it for the name, not even knowing what was going to be entailed until after I made it to the skill tree. I wanted to smuggle. I wanted to do what it is Smugglers do in the Star Wars Universe.


I was very disappointed when I discovered I could not, as have been so many others.


This has been a long, ongoing battle. All we want, is to Smuggle.


Have I gotten through yet?


I can elaborate on each point, but you know what? It really just doesn't make a **selfedit** difference. If you don't understand by reading everything that has been stated on this forum, then you never will.


I'm glad for you if you enjoy playing the current incarnation of Smuggler. That will not stop me from fighting for what it should be.




Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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PhoenixOrion
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:10 pm
#19

Enjoy the 1 star lindz, and come back with a better post next time.


Seriously, if you don't understand why we are complaining, don't come in here.



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Lindz-
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:13 pm
#20

I'm in 100% agreement, aside from the personal stabs at me your post was really good.... This will come with SEP though, this was really apparent though, without the actually facility to smuggle how would you have done it, and your telling me I can't understand information staring me in the face.... I do understand it fully and have always agreed smuggler will be one of the best professions when integrated with SEP and maybe some people here are just getting itchy feet as it nears closer.... Now I won't make a personal stab back but I will point something out to you, the skill tree's are available to look at in game before you train in a profession and you can actually see there is no specific smuggling there.. Yes I love the current incarnation of smuggler, I honesty think its one of SWG's best professions albiet without 'true' smuggling in place yet. I'm not telling anyone to stop fighting but you need to realize how bad it looks to anyone wanting to take up smuggler when they come in this forum and see 2 pages (with the exception of a few very funny role-play thread, theys where great) of people all complaining about the profession being the worst and most mis-treated in the game. I currently have a Master Pikeman, and nothing has ever been done to make my Master Pikeman better, but I haven't posted a hundred posts in the Pike Forums putting everyone else off. You will get the changes you need in this game by volumes of player in a profession and right now people can't be anything but put off by the negativity here.





Ryutek wrote:

Well, I was going to respond to your post point by point, but I noticed I was just reiterating the same thing over and over.


We do not smuggle.


What does this mean? We do not do what we are supposed to do (our namesake). We do not smuggle.


Did you pick up Smuggler because of the name, or the skillset? I picked it for the name, not even knowing what was going to be entailed until after I made it to the skill tree. I wanted to smuggle. I wanted to do what it is Smugglers do in the Star Wars Universe.


I was very disappointed when I discovered I could not, as have been so many others.


This has been a long, ongoing battle. All we want, is to Smuggle.


Have I gotten through yet?


I can elaborate on each point, but you know what? It really just doesn't make a **selfedit** difference. If you don't understand by reading everything that has been stated on this forum, then you never will.


I'm glad for you if you enjoy playing the current incarnation of Smuggler. That will not stop me from fighting for what it should be.










Stefanie' Irige
Jedi Knight


Force Holocron Vendor -425 -5570 Coronet (750m from starport) - 750k each, always the same price, always in stock! - Jedi shouldn't leave home without one!


Lindz-
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:16 pm
#21

and I know you didn't read the thread, you just jumped on your usual bandwagon..... I took a look at your previous posts anywhere, you appear to do that a lot.


The people who are actually taking part in a debate about something here are worth a million of my minutes, however there is so many bandwagon jumpers and plain negative people who are so quick to hit one star and be like 'yeah i dont agree but i'll follow all those guys cos i cant think for myself yeah'



Stefanie' Irige
Jedi Knight


Force Holocron Vendor -425 -5570 Coronet (750m from starport) - 750k each, always the same price, always in stock! - Jedi shouldn't leave home without one!


yimaz
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:18 pm
#22






Lindz- wrote:

I didn't dis anyone, stop taking things so personally, christ you'll have an early heart attack, everything in my statement was a generalization, intended to spark up a good conversation which it has, Smuggler was and still remains in my top 3 loved professions behind BH and Jedi, which have there own set of issues.. Now your saying that I can't base my opinion on the last two days, this is the first time I've came to this forums in a few month and I read the first 2 pages of posts and saw what I saw, if your saying that this is just a ball of gas that exploded the last couple of days, fine someone explain it and converse about it, there has been a few quality posts on this thread so far, that was what I was looking for, note my thread title is a question.







Lindz its not personal im really not upset, was a day ago but not today. Also the dis comment was more for my new pal SaraeItha....


Look most of this community feels it has gotten the short end of the stick for only one reason. The dev's have said smuggler would be updated when the game went live and have said i re-vamp is needed for months and even asked the community to put a re-vamp together which no one feels they looked at cause they dont talk to us which is another thing they said they would do. That has made a lot of people mad and they have a right to that. Every prof does have issues but when you come in here and ,yes you did point out the good but you know it was layed out like we have no reason to be mad thats just not fair to this community. If you were not so "what do you have to be upset about" in your post no one would have flamed you. Look around at some other threads see some of the other stuff people have talked about. for all the anger most of these people have had a lot of good to say. So when people who are not fully versed in what is going on with smuggler come with a "be happy for what you have attidude" it tells me you put not time into finding out why so many people are as mad as they are. I say this because i did the same thing when i first joined this community thought i was right and knew everything. When it was pointed out to me (in a not so nicemaner by myhero electicnomad)to read some other threads i was shocked at how little i knew about this message board. All im saying to both you and SaraeItha is this. Dont assume you know what is going on if all your going to read are threads posted by good people who are simple venting or upset. Find out why first. These folks are not smugglers cause they hate it. ya know??




Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Ragnaat
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:25 pm
#23


PhoenixOrion wrote:
Enjoy the 1 star lindz, and come back with a better post next time.
Seriously, if you don't understand why we are complaining, don't come in here.


Totally unwarranted. Enjoy the one star yourself. Guy comes in here and could potentially be won over, instead he probably just leaves pissed thinking we're all idiots running around with pitchforks.



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-I support going slow and being careful.
focus thread (n.): there for us to focus on while they went behind our backs and did whatever they wanted to, anyway. (Source: AngusMacGregor)
yimaz
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:33 pm
#24






Ragnaat wrote:




PhoenixOrion wrote:

Enjoy the 1 star lindz, and come back with a better post next time.


Seriously, if you don't understand why we are complaining, don't come in here.




Totally unwarranted. Enjoy the one star yourself. Guy comes in here and could potentially be won over, instead he probably just leaves pissed thinking we're all idiots running around with pitchforks.




Ragnaat is right, however *says sheepishly like John Stewart of the Daily Show* aaaa peope are aaaaa......upset.


Kinda like haveing a really bad rectal exame with a lot of pulling and streching then wondering why you fliped out on your pet fish milton for making to much noise in his tank while you try and sleep the exame off.





Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Tonteth
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:13 pm
#25

Wow, stick to your jedi forums please.


It's funny, Jedi can ask for anything and everything. They can piss and moan all they want. When another community does it, the jedi flood to that forum and tell the community to shut up.




Tonteth
Master Smuggler/Master Pistoleer/Master TKA
Tear the face off and wear it as a mask!


corrfleete
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:38 pm
#26

Lindz- wrote: "You have the ability to open your own locked containers without risk, you get cheap faction pets and items."


is this guy on crack? i'd be hard-pressed to think of two more worthless aspects of the game than the loot inside locked containers and faction items....move along....





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