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Thread: Caylin CSR giving Conflicting info again about Pup Slices......
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Delroh
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:11 am
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http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=111556
So when its something important they can never help us yet they can go and contradict things whenever they feel up to it...... This is getting F'ing Confusing.....
Morningbrood
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:24 am
#2
Looks to me like the csr was talking about just using a pup after a slice, he probably doesnt does about the exploit.
This pretty easy, the system already tries to remove pup's before a slice so you can tkae that to mean it's not meant for pups to be there.
Wether or not you get banned for it is kinda secondary an exploit is an exploit and can only do harm.
This pretty easy, the system already tries to remove pup's before a slice so you can tkae that to mean it's not meant for pups to be there.
Wether or not you get banned for it is kinda secondary an exploit is an exploit and can only do harm.
DigiDante
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:40 am
#3
Before we get our panties in a bunch... look at these screenshots.
CSR Chat
CSR Chat 2
This CSR said specifically that it is an exploit.
CSR Chat
CSR Chat 2
This CSR said specifically that it is an exploit.
Delroh
Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:29 pm
#4
This I understand most deffinatly, My issue is that if some "Newer" person asks a CSR after someone askes him to do it and they say oh yea its cool. then the person does it they are opeing themsleves up for a possible ban without even knowing. and as we have seen with the credit dupes people can be a **edit** enough to do something like that to a newbie.
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
It's an exploit. CSr's mean well, but they aren't always in the 'know'.
I've had it confirmed by taurin that it is an exploit that just hasn't been fixed yet...
NJ_Ragman
Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:47 pm
#5
hmm if this is an exploit, then there's a lot of Slicers on Kettemoor who are in deep poo-doo. As I see a great deal of this pup slicing going on and the weapons are being sold on the open market for as much as a couple of million credits a pop.
Caylin, I realise you've said that Taurin has told you it's an exploit, but could you prompt a dev to come here and actually post the final answer and put a rest to this subject, please? As I've been tempted to purchase a set of these vk's that've had this slice done to them on a few occasions, but have not been sure of the facts on whether it's an exploit or not. Many Smugglers i know have said it's not an exploit and i've never seen anyone confirm it is in game. Before i waste my hard earned credits on a weapon that could be deleted for being exploited, I would rather make damn sure one way or the other that it is or isn't an exploit.
Caylin, I realise you've said that Taurin has told you it's an exploit, but could you prompt a dev to come here and actually post the final answer and put a rest to this subject, please? As I've been tempted to purchase a set of these vk's that've had this slice done to them on a few occasions, but have not been sure of the facts on whether it's an exploit or not. Many Smugglers i know have said it's not an exploit and i've never seen anyone confirm it is in game. Before i waste my hard earned credits on a weapon that could be deleted for being exploited, I would rather make damn sure one way or the other that it is or isn't an exploit.
Smuggler_Caylin
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:01 am
#6
It's an exploit. CSr's mean well, but they aren't always in the 'know'.
I've had it confirmed by taurin that it is an exploit that just hasn't been fixed yet...
Syzygy-Gorath
Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:17 am
#7
NJ_Ragman wrote:
hmm if this is an exploit, then there's a lot of Slicers on Kettemoor who are in deep poo-doo. As I see a great deal of this pup slicing going on and the weapons are being sold on the open market for as much as a couple of million credits a pop.
Caylin, I realise you've said that Taurin has told you it's an exploit, but could you prompt a dev to come here and actually post the final answer and put a rest to this subject, please? As I've been tempted to purchase a set of these vk's that've had this slice done to them on a few occasions, but have not been sure of the facts on whether it's an exploit or not. Many Smugglers i know have said it's not an exploit and i've never seen anyone confirm it is in game. Before i waste my hard earned credits on a weapon that could be deleted for being exploited, I would rather make damn sure one way or the other that it is or isn't an exploit.
If you don't trust Caylin's word that Taurin has tagged it an exploit, what good is a dev saying it going to do? Just accept it and move on.
P.S. The "common sense" rule also applies to this one. If it weren't an exploit it would work on all slices. Armor can't be powered up. Therefor it can only be attempted on 50% of slices. To me that says "obvious exploit." Not to mention that the system attempts to remove powerups before slicing begins, that also says "this shouldn't work like that."
Message Edited by Syzygy-Gorath on 08-21-2004 10:18 AM
Geevo
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:26 pm
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NJ_Ragman wrote:
hmm if this is an exploit, then there's a lot of Slicers on Kettemoor who are in deep poo-doo. As I see a great deal of this pup slicing going on and the weapons are being sold on the open market for as much as a couple of million credits a pop.
Caylin, I realise you've said that Taurin has told you it's an exploit, but could you prompt a dev to come here and actually post the final answer and put a rest to this subject, please? As I've been tempted to purchase a set of these vk's that've had this slice done to them on a few occasions, but have not been sure of the facts on whether it's an exploit or not. Many Smugglers i know have said it's not an exploit and i've never seen anyone confirm it is in game. Before i waste my hard earned credits on a weapon that could be deleted for being exploited, I would rather make damn sure one way or the other that it is or isn't an exploit.
So report them, and quite frankly if I found you slicing with PUPs, I would report you.
EVERYONE ... QUIT TRYING TO F**K WITH THE SYSTEM! JUST PLAY THE DAMN GAME THE WAY IT WAS BUILT!
Duedroth
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:52 pm
#10
DigiDante wrote:
Before we get our panties in a bunch... look at these screenshots.
CSR Chat
CSR Chat 2
This CSR said specifically that it is an exploit.
thanks for doing that, and especially for dropping the other CSR's name. I do agree that the original poster didn't phrase the question in the clearest way possible, but it's also very likely that CSR Brettwhatever honestly wasn't aware of the situation.
Hopefully everyone starts getting the same memos over there.
Nicolas_Frost
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:48 am
#11
Yeah, scenarios like this are why I /log all my chat when slicing, that way, I have the information that I need on the people, and I can give it to a CSR if needed, because I will and have reported people.
Syzygy-Gorath
Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:37 am
#12
Agreed. In a lot of ways this reminds me of the cross-species hair bug that plagued Image Designers for a while—while the bug itself may not be viewed as as much of an exploit as this, it hurt the business of honest Image Designers in much the same way as this is hurting the business of honest smugglers (/blink … did I just say honest smugglers? I must not be awake yet
Erillion wrote:
There is one great problem in all this.
I have already about half of my customers demand a "special" slice. Even providing all necessary pieces. If one does not agree, they take their business elsewhere. That HURTS if its a 1000 weapon factory run or an UBER Krayt weapon. And no, NO ONE in spatial directly asks for or explains the exploit. They are not brain dead, risking to be reported.
So one thing has changed : MANY MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT PU SLICING ALREADY AND DEMAND IT.
Which means fixing this bug ASAP should be bumped up HIGH on the list of hot fixing.
have fun
Novarider
Ceterum censeo PU slicing delendam esse
RedRiver
Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:39 am
#13
it's not an exploit. it's a trick. and we are smugglers.. go figure 8)
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