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Thread: Idea for a Smuggler Specific Weapon
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Bessja
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:41 am
#1
I had an Idea for the smuggler specific weapon I would like the community's input on. I got the idea while reading about how the lightsabers are now containers.
How about a smuggler pistol call a Tranquilizer Pistol. The gun would do kinetic damage and be slightly better than the Striker Pistol. The Certification would be granted at the Novice Level. Here's where it gets interesting :
The gun would be a container that allowed spices to be applyed, like a powerup. The gun would inflict the downer period on a target. The downer period would depend on the spice inserted. Now before someone cries 'Nerf' because the gun is too powerful, the gun would require the master smuggler skill to be used effectively. Why? Because in addition to raising the dmg, lowering the speed, a slice on the gun would determine the chance of applying the downer period. So a Slicer who slices his Tranq Pistol for a 20% increase in speed would have a 20% chance of applying the Shadowpaw downer if he loaded Shadowpaw into his gun
The only real concern is that spices do not have 'charges' per say. So either the gun would accept crates of spice. Or adding the spice would install a fixed number of charges, like a powerup.
Any thoughts from the community on this?
Bosyn-Dallas
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:43 am
#2
Honestly I think the DL44 should be ours. IIRC both Greedo and Han were carrying them in EP 4. They should bump the stats a bit and give us the "personal tinkering" option for our weapon.
Orcajum
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:05 am
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Bosyn-Dallas wrote:Honestly I think the DL44 should be ours. IIRC both Greedo and Han were carrying them in EP 4. They should bump the stats a bit and give us the "personal tinkering" option for our weapon.
The only problem I have with the DL44 cert is that it continues to turn us all into Han Solos. Han used the DL44 because, after his modifications, it suited his style. But not all smugglers would have the same style as him.
Think of it. Yes Han and Greedo had DL44s. But did Lando? Or in the EU, did Mara Jade use a DL44? I'm sure she was capable of it, but she liked the stealthy style of smaller weapons in the wrist sheaths. And I'm not sure Talon Karrde used pistols as all.
Bosyn-Dallas
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:24 am
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Orcajum wrote:
The only problem I have with the DL44 cert is that it continues to turn us all into Han Solos. Han used the DL44 because, after his modifications, it suited his style. But not all smugglers would have the same style as him.
Think of it. Yes Han and Greedo had DL44s. But did Lando? Or in the EU, did Mara Jade use a DL44? I'm sure she was capable of it, but she liked the stealthy style of smaller weapons in the wrist sheaths. And I'm not sure Talon Karrde used pistols as all.
Orca I agree, but look at other professions. BH's use the scatter pistol and LLC like Boba. Jedi's use the single and double lightsabre like Luke and Maul. All we can go off of is what was presented in the movies. I know in the EU you had Smugg's using everything under the sun, and with some even the sun, as weapons. But we need to come to a consensus as to what weapon we want. I just believe the DL44 is the most Iconic weapon for one of the 4 Iconic professions.
Message Edited by Bosyn-Dallas on 06-08-2004 12:32 PM
Jandel-Har
Tue Jun 08, 2004 10:42 am
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I am more in favor of a smuggler only "super slice". So the smuggler can put his own "personal" touch on his or her weapon of choice. Of course after the big slice it would then be untradable. The actuall slice could be a % above and
beyond the current limits ,or be able to pick the trait you want to improve. I prefer the latter.
Orcajum
Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:25 pm
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Gah... actually had to work for a while, so i couldn't finish the post i'd been working on.. 
Anyway, one of the things I wish we could change about this game is the clone-mentality that seems rampant. One of the best, most eye-dropping scenes in the first movie, besides all those cool special effects, is when Luke steps into the Mos Eisley Cantina and is surrounded by dozens of species no one had ever imagined before.
What happens when you walk into a cantina in SWG? 2/3 of everyone decked out in comp armor, most likely blue, red, or gunmetal. Oh, and in my case the one Twi'lek in a bright orange pilot jacket. lol
The thing is, we shouldn't all be wearing the same outfits or armor, or even carrying the exact same weapon around. On the weapon side, i hope the combat balance will bring out the carbines and polearms, and start decreasing the number of rifles and fencers. Hopefully no one weapon will end up dominating, and as the game progreses they can start developing new weapons, not necessarily with better stats, but just that look really cool. Imagine Republic Blasters that looked less banana-ish or something. Just my hopes though.
Anyway, one of the things I wish we could change about this game is the clone-mentality that seems rampant. One of the best, most eye-dropping scenes in the first movie, besides all those cool special effects, is when Luke steps into the Mos Eisley Cantina and is surrounded by dozens of species no one had ever imagined before.
What happens when you walk into a cantina in SWG? 2/3 of everyone decked out in comp armor, most likely blue, red, or gunmetal. Oh, and in my case the one Twi'lek in a bright orange pilot jacket. lol
The thing is, we shouldn't all be wearing the same outfits or armor, or even carrying the exact same weapon around. On the weapon side, i hope the combat balance will bring out the carbines and polearms, and start decreasing the number of rifles and fencers. Hopefully no one weapon will end up dominating, and as the game progreses they can start developing new weapons, not necessarily with better stats, but just that look really cool. Imagine Republic Blasters that looked less banana-ish or something. Just my hopes though.
DrakoonShao
Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:39 pm
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There's a reason that Han and Greedo, along with many other smugglers and such, used the DL44. Like the YT-1300, it was heavily modifiable. In fact, as a result it was illegal or restrictedin most systems. The fact that the DL44 was illegal can be read on "Han's Heavy Blaster Pistol" from the original Star Wars ccg by Decipher, don't remember where I read about how modifiable it was though, was probably in one of the books, sorry. Taking this info into account makes the perfect weapon for smugglers if we are going to get a weapon cert. I would suggest leaving the normal DL44 open to all, but upping the stats on the Metal version and making it a smuggler certed weapon. From there they could still add a personal slice into the game for smugglers. Another cool thing about DL44s in game is they are actually the pistol that can have the most custom looks. Scope or no scope along with several different barrels lead to lots of options. Once again, perfect for a smuggler in my opinion.
Golrok
Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:39 pm
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All it needsarmor piercingfor a Master.
I hope someday they make it where you can see other peoples guncomponents besides your own, like the scope or the barrel. That would go with themore diverse looks.
Different % ranges of comp should alter the comp graphic, like 20-30% complooks one way, 40-50% another, etc.
Shugal
Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:20 pm
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For only 3 posts, you got a pretty good idea. I always thought a smuggler specific weapon would be cool.
Maybe an "Ultra" slice or something. The weapon was ultra tricked out, but wore down faster than a normal slice and was only useable by smugglers.
Jandel-Har
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:19 am
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If we were to get a smuggler only weapon I would vote for a hold out blaster. A very small,very powerfull,usefull only at point blank(or so) and be good for a limited number of shots before it goes poof.
Now as to who would make it ect, ect ,ect I dont know . I am an idea guy not a details guy.
JaceBri
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:44 am
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i beleive greedo had a D18 pistol. i just watched the movie the other day on tv and paid attention to all the weapons and i was like wow that weapon is that and so on. anyway i think DL44 should be just a smuggler weapon as well and we should be able to put differnt mods on our DL44's such as power-ups but they dont loose charges, and have an actul graphic on the gun. we should get maybe a silencer, scope, longer barrel. im not sure what thye might do but im sure devs can think of somethign good
KodaVeers
Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:44 pm
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One cool idea about personal blaster for smugglers i have is...
At Novice Smuggler we get to pick any pistol model we want, just one. It starts off with base stats like say the DX2 (I think we get at novice) And with each skill box attained in smuggler the weopon power increases and a final increase at Master Smuggler. Then we throw our own slice or super slice on it....and BAM we each have our own individual blaster pistol and after slice its unique.
We all have our own pistol style with equal stats with the exception of the slice that makes it unique.
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