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EnderUK

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:37 am

Taken from this thread from the Customer Service forum.

Hey everyone. After some lengthy discussions, the CS management team has come up with answers to the two other topics in this thread's discussion: the camping of a deceased player, and camping or continuing to attack someone who's feigned death.

On corpse camping:

The honorable thing to do, would be to give the victim the opportunity to flee. That being said, Customer Service will not be involved in active enforcement or disciplinary action related to corpse camping, as there is no way for us to consistently police these incidents. Even with a very quick response from a CSR, there is too much that goes on that we don't have a chance to see 'live and in context'; and that prevents us from being able to judge each situation on an equal basis.

For those of you not on the Councils: to help prevent someone finding your name on the terminals, you'll want to keep your visibility in check. While it might be nice to run around Coronet brandishing your lightsaber for oohs and ahhs, your visibility will go through the roof. Keep the following things in mind while traveling and hunting: Equipping and/or utilizing your lightsaber within range of any humanoids (PC or NPC, grouped or ungrouped) will generate visibility. Activating/using a force power within range of any humanoids will generate visibility.

One note: Thunderheart recently posted the message SWG Changes Part 1: Removal of Temporary Enemy Flags (TEFs) which makes some adjustments to the current BH and Jedi interaction. Once this has been tested and implemented, we will take another look at the interaction between the combatants, and make changes to our policy if necessary.

On being attacked while feigning death (FD):

The current use of Feign Death in a PVP encounter prevents the opponent from dealing a death-blow to your character, but does not halt the current battle, and does not prevent further attacks from your opponents. Knowing this, if you choose to use feign death, you do so at your own risk: Customer Service will not become involved with complaints of 'black baring' or similar actions while in an FD state.

As part of the announcement, a copy of this post has been sent to the entire SWG-CS department, and is considered in effect immediately. Thank you for your patience while we reviewed these difficult situations.

-Ethan

Ethan Nason Customer Service Star Wars Galaxies Sony Online Entertainment

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yimaz

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:42 am

#2

Well there ya have it, I wonder if they plan on leaving FD as is or actually addressing and or revamping it? One thing howeveris nowpainfully clear,if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred./shurg

Thanks for the update, good or bad at least for have an answer.

Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Daturaze

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:50 am

#3

Well, not really a shock - if the choice is between:

a) Waking up from Nacho Induced nap to start Enforcing/Discipliningincidents or

b) Doing jack all nothing

Then human nature being what it is, "b" is the only obvious solution

Don't really have a problem with this per se - not entirely thrilledbecause it doesn't mention incidents that may "cross the line" into griefing but whatever. At least if playersknow the rules they know what they can/can't do and what they can/can't complain about.

Cheers
Dat

Jaguarrr

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:54 am

#4

Good that they cleared that up.

Not good is how they did it.

I for one will /denyservice anyone who blackbars a feigning Smuggler. It is griefing to me to do that, end of story.

We couldn't play SWG without Tiggs. Now we can =)

yimaz

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:57 am

#5

Daturaze wrote:

Well, not really a shock - if the choice is between:

a) Waking up from Nacho - nacho's /drool....Induced nap to start Enforcing/Discipliningincidents or

b) Doing jack all nothing

Then human nature being what it is, "b" is the only obvious solution

Don't really have a problem with this per se - not entirely thrilledbecause it doesn't mention incidents that may "cross the line" into griefing but whatever. At least if playersknow the rules they know what they can/can't do and what they can/can't complain about.

Cheers
Dat

I tend to agree, I dont use FD to avoid a DB rather in tandum with FOW (a tka skill) this is a great trick because when you FD people think your just trying to avoidsaid DB but when you hit FOW and your stats jump back up thenyou jump back up and start swinging they usually run away which is really, really funny. At that point I pull my DE and drop them with a low blow shot, run up and beat them to death. It's a great trick, when pulled off it leaves people stunned. I recommend this combo to any smuggler thinking of adding TKA to his/her temp.

Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Skedardistroyer

Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:04 am

#6

yimaz wrote:

One thing howeveris nowpainfully clear,if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred./shurg

God bless meditate

Ske Lomek

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yimaz

Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:05 am

#7

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:

One thing howeveris nowpainfully clear,if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred./shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.

Message Edited by yimaz on 02-09-2005 11:06 AM

Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Nicolas_Frost

Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:19 am

#8

yimaz wrote:

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:
One thing however is now painfully clear, if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred. /shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.
Message Edited by yimaz on 02-09-2005 11:06 AM

Hehehe, both skills are earned in the same skill box, or perhaps just one skill box difference. So QUIT YER ARGUIN'!

Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
THE Official Smuggler Forum Smartass!
The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.

yimaz

Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:29 am

#9

Nicolas_Frost wrote:

yimaz wrote:

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:

One thing however is now painfully clear, if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred. /shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.

Hehehe, both skills are earned in the same skill box, or perhaps just one skill box difference. So QUIT YER ARGUIN'!

Ummmm who is arguin'?? I'm mean granted I've been doing a little Ummm..... negotiating

in the last few days but this was not an argument (it does not even read that way *points to happy face* ) I was simlpy point out a skill option people may not know about.

Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Nicolas_Frost

Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:35 am

#10

yimaz wrote:

Nicolas_Frost wrote:
yimaz wrote:

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:
One thing however is now painfully clear, if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred. /shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.

Hehehe, both skills are earned in the same skill box, or perhaps just one skill box difference. So QUIT YER ARGUIN'!

Ummmm who is arguin'?? I'm mean granted I've been doing a little Ummm..... negotiating in the last few days but this was not an argument (it does not even read that way *points to happy face* ) I was simlpy point out a skill option people may not know about.

Doesn't matter, I try to never miss a chance to be a smartass.

Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
THE Official Smuggler Forum Smartass!
The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.

yimaz

Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:38 am

#11

Nicolas_Frost wrote:

yimaz wrote:

Nicolas_Frost wrote:

yimaz wrote:

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:

One thing however is now painfully clear, if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred. /shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.

Hehehe, both skills are earned in the same skill box, or perhaps just one skill box difference. So QUIT YER ARGUIN'!

Ummmm who is arguin'?? I'm mean granted I've been doing a little Ummm..... negotiating in the last few days but this was not an argument (it does not even read that way *points to happy face* ) I was simlpy point out a skill option people may not know about.

Doesn't matter, I try to never miss a chance to be a smartass.

Good point and I agree! (should have gotten that) But with that said I feel that it'sALL YOUR FAULTbecause blaa,blaa,blaa,blaa, blaa....

Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

JediArashi

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:14 pm

#12

Nicolas_Frost wrote:

yimaz wrote:

Nicolas_Frost wrote:

yimaz wrote:

Skedardistroyer wrote:

yimaz wrote:

One thing however is now painfully clear, if you FD to avoid a DB you do run the risk of being black barred. /shurg

God bless meditate

very, very true but again if you have master TK use FOW when you FD. They work very well together.

Hehehe, both skills are earned in the same skill box, or perhaps just one skill box difference. So QUIT YER ARGUIN'!

Ummmm who is arguin'?? I'm mean granted I've been doing a little Ummm..... negotiating in the last few days but this was not an argument (it does not even read that way *points to happy face* ) I was simlpy point out a skill option people may not know about.

Doesn't matter, I try to never miss a chance to be a smartass.

And you succeed every time!!

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Proud member of the greatest community around....Smuggler for life!

Smuggler_Caylin

Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:19 pm

#13

I can understand them not being able to deal with the problem but this decision to say 'at your own risk' hits me wrong. The obvious body camping and griefing resulting in the use of feign death should never be acceptable. I know some of the developers understand this and it amazes me that this policy leaving us on our own came into existence.

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