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Thread: The Smuggler Revamp- Before you ask- PLEASE READ.
Keep in mind, once a dev finishes a project like that, he checks it in. It goes into our version control software ... and we have little control over when it will get to you. Sometimes the developer isn't even 100% sure which publish his change will be in: the next one, or the one after that?
At that point, it's in for an upcoming publish with a lot of other stuff. Any of that "other stuff" could delay the publish. Or we could hear back from QA, "We don't have time to test that properly, so let's hold it for the next publish and give ourselves time to test all this other stuff." Or this could delay the publish itself. Or we could discover other issues with it in testing that cause us to sit on it for another publish, and so on. Really, anything could happen.
Most of the time, nothing bad happens, we haven't scheduled anything that requires more QA time than QA can accommodate, and what we check-in arrives on Live servers when it's supposed to. But this is just not something we can promise, so we try not to do that.
This particular torpedo has left the tube, but we can't say when precisely it will make contact with the USS Smuggler.
"Soon".
Currently slated for Publish 19 is some slicing loving. We are hoping to get a document posted to "In Dev" this week for you all to view. QA still needs to bang away at the slicing changes which could push it out another publish or two.
What does this mean to the Smuggler revamp?
The revamp will come in pieces but it will STILL be a revamp- not just a bunch of minute fixes.
The soonest you can expect to see the first part of the revamp will be publish 19. That means, something else that was easier to complete, has been completed, or was more dire has been turned in first- but not at the expense of our revamp.
What I am saying is- we are going to see something completely different happen in publish 18 which may have nothing to do with Smuggler.
You have been told- so please do not moan about not getting love in publish 18. The earliest will be pub 19.The work is done. The work is in. But it won't be ready until pub 19.
Some of us have waited nearly 2 YEARS. We can surely wait one more publish.
Now, these three individuals broke rules and went against their own personal policies to bring us this information. Let's be respectful and not bash them with tales of mistrust from the past and shouts of "Liar".
Remember that when you post on this issue in particular you are representing the whole Smuggling community and "I want it now" type posts are...less than mature and could have adverse affects on the community gettinginformation in the future.
Alright. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle. YO JOE!!!
Yo joe? I must say our moose and limey bretheren are hurt...hurt deep to the core...
good write up! Can't wait for p19!
Hotdog; "Some of us have waited nearly 2 YEARS. We can surely wait one more publish. "
One more publish for what? Slicing to get fixed and changed somewhat? *rolls eyes* So we should all be thrilled over, once again, being Slice Monkies?
I'm 'waiting' for SMUGGLING. When is THAT scheduled for? They've told Veela it's 'done' and just waiting for 'text' to be added. So why don't they see adding the freaking text as some kind of priority? How can you not have a schedule for writing TEXT?
Publish 20 for SMUGGLING? Publish 21? Publish 22? When? How much longer do we have to wait to do what we SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING AT LAUNCH?
I've waited almost two years for SMUGGLING, not a new freaking slicing 'mini-game'.
I'm sure not mad at Veela, she tells us as much as she possibly can and has NO control over the accuracy of what is given to her. Shame on anyone that would give her a hard time.And I'm not mad at Tiggs either. She comes here to say what she's allowed to say. Tiggs is our connection to the management at SOE though.
To the dev management that sets priority and functionality I have NOTHING nice to say. We've been strung along for far too long. I am STILL being strung along. I'm not interested in slicing. I'm being strung along on the MAIN issue; SMUGGLING.
If they'd come here to give us an idea of how long we have to wait for SMUGGLING then I'd have been quite thrilled over the communication.
HOTDOG wrote:
Now, these three individuals broke rules and went against their own personal policies to bring us this information. Let's be respectful and not bash them with tales of mistrust from the past and shouts of "Liar".
Remember that when you post on this issue in particular you are representing the whole Smuggling community and "I want it now" type posts are...less than mature and could have adverse affects on the community gettinginformation in the future.
Alright. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle. YO JOE!!!
AngusMacGregor wrote:
An old-school Smuggler's view of all of this Revamp nonsense:
I'll believe it when I see it.
No sense in moaning about when it'll be here. No sense in waiting anxiously for Publish 19 to get here because you never know, it could get pushed back.... again. Just enjoy the game any way you can and act pleasantly surprised ifsome Smuggler Love appears in the patch notes.
Until then, eat some pie, have some beers, and pretend some mamiens are Devs and Low Blow them to death to get out your frustrations.
Is it obvious I've been an unloved Smuggler for two years?
What's that? A Smuggler revamp? Nothing needs to be revamped here...They already gave smuggling to everyone when Jump to Lightspeed came out. The revamp was to give smuggling content to 'everyone else'.
Yeah, I'm with you on the "believe it when I see it". Until then, I have always enjoyed being a smuggler, and leaving the game had nothing to do with the empty promise of the revamp.
I'm back now though, so here's to hoping I came back in time to see "something" happen. It's kind of sad to see the current state of slicing though.... 
eldiablo2k3 wrote:
Does this come before or after the next jedi revamp?
Seriously, do not be surprised if Jedi see some "fixes" like elemental damage and new mind costs to healingin pub 18. And for that matter Commandoes might even get AoE fixed, Riflemen might get slower movement modsor any such thing like that.
I'm not saying I know this stuff for sure BUT when it comes to putting two and two together and reading between the lines I got a bachelor's degree.
Take into account that we have been told the Slicing and Smuggling things are finished and near finished respectively, add that to us being told that things are going through QA and testing and then add to that we are told that its earliest release will be Pub 19 and this is what I get...
carry the one...
Our revamp is done- there is a lot to it that affects a good portion of the game (especially things like slicing) so it's being checked and double checked. Quite possibly it is huge and combining it with other fixes (that have to be done ASAP- like AoE damage) would be too much for one patch so it's being broken up.
This is what I am saying and I would gamble my YT that I'm right ('course, I don't own a YT soooo 
...)
No amount of whining or demands or threats is going to change this- but on the bright side we truly are right around the corner. So refrain from freaking out when you don't see smuggler love on the notes of Pub 18 'cause its most likely not going to be there.
That in mind SOMETHING will be in Pub 18 and I wouldn't be surprised if it involved Jedi on some scale and neither should you because all signs point that way.
Now if only we could get some sort of response to the commando problem.
I /salute your efforts HOTDOG.
But you know the cries are going to start anyway once the next Publish comes out. That's something you can bet the YT on. Kudos though for trying to make a dent in the angry mob. Here's hoping this thread hangs around on page one for awhile