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Thread: The Smuggler Revamp- Before you ask- PLEASE READ.

Nezodon
Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:29 pm
#14






HOTDOG wrote:

Thanks, but you're probably right.


Pub 18 will go out. Someone will freak out and communication will stop until the revamp is actually on Test. I really want to avoid that. I understand that we have been promised and waited but to be so close and mess it up.






I agree if as smuggler's we look at publish 19 as the date our content starts rolling in we shouldnt be disappointed when it isnt in publish 18.


I think it is good news on a whole and shows they are moving upwards and onwards with our anticipated revamp now the only people who can ruin the communication between SOE/LA and the players are us by attacking other professions or the customer service staff, this will close the door of communication.






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zakalex
Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:38 pm
#15






Saarek wrote:

Well, you can all second guess, or complain about the words used, or whine, or whatever you would like to call it.. but I'll say one thing.


At least we heard something right from their mouths. I commend them for that - and lets not go flaming them for communicating when thats exactly what we've been asking to happen before the updates start getting pushed out.


The last thing I want are the same idiots flaming Tiggs and JFreeman, that flamed Veela, for giving us what we asked for: communication.



Any of you who thing that was not upstanding of them, then take a hike. They went on a limb to give us some information, and I will not let this community spit on them. Sorry for being so passionate about this, and I apologize if I offend anyone, but I know that most of us appreciate their information, and I beg you 3 (Veela, Tiggs, and JFreeman) to please keep up the great work.



OK, I'm done. Flame away.








I've been trying to compose apost that wouldn't get me forum banned, and your post calmly sums up how I feel too.Thanks forhelping me not get bannedSaarek.


/salute Saarek


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Tasomo
Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:39 pm
#16

I'm playing it safe and betting that we'll get it sometime before Pub 25. We'll get it, no doubt about it.
HaughtyElf
Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:59 pm
#17

/agree with previous posts


As far as I can tell, this is the first communication we've had in this forums in months and we shouldn't blow it by getting all huffy because there is no date.

Personally, I didn't want a date, I got exactly what I wanted. Some one saying its being worked on and now its done and off to QA.

This is the type of communication I want to keep seeing, I dont want any dates, more just status reports. Dev is working on Blah, Dev is done and its headed to QA, its headed to TC.

I'm more interested in discussing the ideas for developing Smuggler further.
And for those of you who don't understand that a discussion is just that and not gospel.

Have a beer and sit in the corner.


To Tiggs and JFreeman, please keep the info coming, it is much apperciated by the majority. Ignore the minority flamers.




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Bzzzz
Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:13 pm
#18






HOTDOG wrote:


What I am saying is- we are going to see something completely different happen in publish 18 which may have nothing to do with Smuggler.




Oh, we'll see Smuggler changes in 18. Dare I sayConcussion-Shot? And Last-Ditch, maybe? (*cough**cough*nerfed*cough*into oblivion*cough**cough*)


But nothing good till 19 AT THE EARLIEST, which could be a few months out. 6 weeks if Tigg's 3 weeks/publish timeline holds up. And she pointed out that Slicing might get bumped if it or *other* changes slated for 18/19 get bumped back to QA. So if by chance vehicular combat or underwater basketweaving (or whateverelse is slated for 18) doesn't work and gets bumped, so does Slicing, and everything else following it. So be amazed and excited if we get any lovin's before pub 20. 3 weeks x 3 publishes + 14 weeks of Jedi fixes = .. hey, what are those 4 scary-looking horsemen doing?



-Zz ("Storm's a brewin'..")
HOTDOG
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:13 am
#19

Thanks, but you're probably right.


Pub 18 will go out. Someone will freak out and communication will stop until the revamp is actually on Test. I really want to avoid that. I understand that we have been promised and waited but to be so close and mess it up.






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Tasomo
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:20 am
#20

Question here...


I appreciate all the hard work here, but am I the only one who was slightly unnerved by the developer's choice of words?


"This particular torpedo has already left the tube,but we can't say precisely when itwill make contact with the USS Smuggler"


Now, I do understand a bit about naval warfare, and last I checked no torpedo ever fired at a ship made the ship better. The USS Smuggler's been crewed by some of the most stalwart and resilient players ever...but she's been neglected in the shipyards and passed over for rehaul for what...2 years now? Each time she gets passed over so the USS Jedi can be polished up and given more goodies. Now we're getting a torpedo? I can't say I'm thrilled to hear about this one.


Here's hoping it was just a faux pas and not a subtle hint. I'd hate to see her go down with all hands.
Zhagadska
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:32 am
#21






HOTDOG wrote:



And then we got this from Tiggs:


I normally don't post anything unless it is 100% solid because things change daily around here. I will break this rule and see how well you do with a tentative answer.

Currently slated for Publish 19 is some slicing loving.






the tone here also sets the stage that it may slip past publish 19 if something happens between now and then. so while 19 looks good, they have NOT promised us that it will be there. i've seen too many "tentative" answers suddenly become promises after the fact, that doesn't need to happen here. i think the whole point behind Hotdogs post is to keep everyone to remain open minded and constructive.



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Saarek
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:41 am
#22

Well, you can all second guess, or complain about the words used, or whine, or whatever you would like to call it.. but I'll say one thing.


At least we heard something right from their mouths. I commend them for that - and lets not go flaming them for communicating when thats exactly what we've been asking to happen before the updates start getting pushed out.


The last thing I want are the same idiots flaming Tiggs and JFreeman, that flamed Veela, for giving us what we asked for: communication.



Any of you who thing that was not upstanding of them, then take a hike. They went on a limb to give us some information, and I will not let this community spit on them. Sorry for being so passionate about this, and I apologize if I offend anyone, but I know that most of us appreciate their information, and I beg you 3 (Veela, Tiggs, and JFreeman) to please keep up the great work.



OK, I'm done. Flame away.







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MalickRycon
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:53 am
#23

Having left the game and come back, I was pleasantly surprised to see that some changes had been made. Some were good, most were not but at least there were somethings. True, most of them came about as a result of the CU, but that's okay, too. All in all, I think someone already posted the right of it -- you either enjoy the game or you don't.


This game is never going to be perfect, and it's always going to be in development. Just look at the Jedi. I know we complain about the love they've been shown, but look at what they get for their troubles. They get something, then it gets nerfed. Then something that was nerfed gets fixed, and the whole process starts over again. Even when a revamp comes, it's still going to be tweaked, altered, filed, stamped, briefed, debriefed and numbered. And it will always be in flux.


I think that's part of the deal with MMO's. In the meantime, there are still quite a few of you who haven't been to Fort Awesome for your portions of pie and beer. What are you waiting for?


--Malick
Spiderhammer
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:59 am
#24













HOTDOG wrote:



And then we got this from Tiggs:


I normally don't post anything unless it is 100% solid because things change daily around here. I will break this rule and see how well you do with a tentative answer.

Currently slated for Publish 19 is some slicing loving.









I think the communication from the devs on this was great and refreshing, i havent heard anything in a long time. Keep in mind all she went out on a limb for us on this one and i'm sure is keeping an eye on the way we respond to getting less than certain info here. I for one would rather this than nothing so lets try not to be jackasses about it and we can hopefully hear a bit more from the devs in the future.







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HOTDOG
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:33 am
#25

just reminder bumpage







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Saarek
Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:56 am
#26






zakalex wrote:



I've been trying to compose apost that wouldn't get me forum banned, and your post calmly sums up how I feel too.Thanks forhelping me not get bannedSaarek.


/salute Saarek


-Zaka'lex







Thanks mate.


I wasnt sure if I was gonna get flamed for what I wrote, or if people would agree.


Nice to see others share my respect for that situation.





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"The Hawtness is my ally, and a powerful ally it is." RIP SAAREK CARVATHOS :: AUG 4, 2005
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S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

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