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Thread: Fellow Smugglers lend me your ears
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Jandel-Har
Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:59 pm
#1
By now we all know that BH and jedi will not stop until feign death is either gone or nerfed until its usless.
So on teh flurry boards this guy has a great idea, lets move feign death FROM smuggler TO master scout or ranger , head on over and offer you opinions , tell em Dak sent you . I cant clicky so youll have to do it manual sorry
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Flurry&message.id=228533
Smuggler_Caylin
Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:41 pm
#2
It has merit in a way but a simple moving of this skill does not solve the problems that are caused by using it. Changing it's location isn't going to do any real, lasting good for the game or the mechanics that have caused so many problems. That's why I don't really care for the 'just move it to master smuggler' calls as it really doesn't resolve the imbalance with the skill.
I also have a very strong objection to what I could only see as 'PvE only' skills. In an ideally balanced system for me, every special would have a use and a place in any method of combat that person decides to indulge in. Maybe rangers want to be PvE only, I don't know.
I also have a very strong objection to what I could only see as 'PvE only' skills. In an ideally balanced system for me, every special would have a use and a place in any method of combat that person decides to indulge in. Maybe rangers want to be PvE only, I don't know.
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Jandel-Har
Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:57 pm
#3
I agree it is a bounty hunter trying to get it moved inot a more suitable location for them .
01201986
Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:57 pm
#4
inbalanced as it may be, moving itto the master box would at least put a stop to the exploiting. or, the devs could make it so that jedi cannot aquire the special. the more immediate, tho perhaps not larger, issue is the use of FD to disrupt the BH/Jedi relationship. and i think the devs will fix that one first, tho i could easily be wrong /shrug
Message Edited by 01201986 on 01-08-2005 09:08 PM
Zeon_Zaku
Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:00 pm
#5
Move it to master Scout or Ranger!? That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. FD is a Smuggler move, and it suits the profession perfectly. It has no place anywhere else. I mean, c'mon... why not just remove Smuggler altogether if you go switching its skills to other profesions?
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
Jandel-Har
Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:13 pm
#7
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Move it to master Scout or Ranger!? That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. FD is a Smuggler move, and it suits the profession perfectly. It has no place anywhere else. I mean, c'mon... why not just remove Smuggler altogether if you go switching its skills to other profesions?
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
I agree but a bounty hunter could easily grab it if its put where this lunkhead wants it.Not haveing to alter his template much at all. But a jedi would hve to give up soem TK to get it ,not so convienent for them. Each side is trying to nerf it to benifit them the most
Zeon_Zaku
Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:26 pm
#8
Yeah, I understand kinda why this guy wants it moved. But it still just makes no sense. There has to be something that can be done with FD and not make it A) completely useless and B) taken out of Smuggler.
Jandel-Har wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Move it to master Scout or Ranger!? That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. FD is a Smuggler move, and it suits the profession perfectly. It has no place anywhere else. I mean, c'mon... why not just remove Smuggler altogether if you go switching its skills to other profesions?
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
I agree but a bounty hunter could easily grab it if its put where this lunkhead wants it.Not haveing to alter his template much at all. But a jedi would hve to give up soem TK to get it ,not so convienent for them. Each side is trying to nerf it to benifit them the most
Nicolas_Frost
Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:33 pm
#9
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Yeah, I understand kinda why this guy wants it moved. But it still just makes no sense. There has to be something that can be done with FD and not make it A) completely useless and B) taken out of Smuggler.
Jandel-Har wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Move it to master Scout or Ranger!? That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. FD is a Smuggler move, and it suits the profession perfectly. It has no place anywhere else. I mean, c'mon... why not just remove Smuggler altogether if you go switching its skills to other profesions?
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
I agree but a bounty hunter could easily grab it if its put where this lunkhead wants it.Not haveing to alter his template much at all. But a jedi would hve to give up soem TK to get it ,not so convienent for them. Each side is trying to nerf it to benifit them the most
Institute penalties for each side using it.
Jedi uses it: Experience loss equal to 75% of that lost on incapacitation
Bounty Hunter uses it during a mission: Loss of mission, loss of TEF, inability to pick up the same mission for a week.
Zeon_Zaku
Sat Jan 08, 2005 10:33 pm
#10
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Yeah, I understand kinda why this guy wants it moved. But it still just makes no sense. There has to be something that can be done with FD and not make it A) completely useless and B) taken out of Smuggler.
Jandel-Har wrote:
Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Move it to master Scout or Ranger!? That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard. FD is a Smuggler move, and it suits the profession perfectly. It has no place anywhere else. I mean, c'mon... why not just remove Smuggler altogether if you go switching its skills to other profesions?
It should be moved to Master Smuggler, but not removed from Smuggler.
I agree but a bounty hunter could easily grab it if its put where this lunkhead wants it.Not haveing to alter his template much at all. But a jedi would hve to give up soem TK to get it ,not so convienent for them. Each side is trying to nerf it to benifit them the most
Institute penalties for each side using it.
Jedi uses it: Experience loss equal to 75% of that lost on incapacitation
Bounty Hunter uses it during a mission: Loss of mission, loss of TEF, inability to pick up the same mission for a week.
Oooh, never thought of that. Sounds good to me.
Arcan
Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:42 pm
#11
Institute penalties for each side using it.
Jedi uses it: Experience loss equal to 75% of that lost on incapacitation
Bounty Hunter uses it during a mission: Loss of mission, loss of TEF, inability to pick up the same mission for a week.
Now that is an excellent idea.
It still allows we Smugglers to use it as it was intended and does not prvent BH or Jedi from using it if they are willing to take the hit.
Datink_Nieleft
Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:14 am
#12
That IS a great idea!!! Then the whole matter would drop entirely. No movement or change of the skill....its darn near perfect. I suppose implementing may be tricky, but I doubt impossible.
5 Stars cause that is the best thing I've read in a while!
Nicolas_Frost
Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:57 am
#13
Yeah, they'd have to code it so that it clears the group TEF too, in the cases of Bounty Hunter Gank Squads.
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