Smuggler Archive
Thread: Exploits To Overcome Feign Death
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JoNakU
Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:54 am
#1
Are there exploits to pull someone out of feign death?
Anyway to stop those exploits?
Can you/logout while you feign death?
Andhow on earth cansomeone reduce your armor to 0 condition while you feign death?
KJFett
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:03 am
#2
Hey JoNakU..funny I shoud run into over here as well 
JoNakU wrote:
Are there exploits to pull someone out of feign death?
They just seem like an exploit seems we seem them so rarely. It is a special used by one profession. It is called a 'posture up" attack..it makes you stand. How do you end FD? by standing up..so guess what the attack does? It end FD.
Anyway to stop those exploits?
Posture Up defense.....likely only in skill tapes. or the rifleman profession
Can you/logout while you feign death?
Never done this myself...I don't think you can /logout since you have to be sitting to /logout. You could /quit tho I am sure.
Andhow on earth cansomeone reduce your armor to 0 condition while you feign death?
All dmg that that is not blocked by your armor is reduced from the coniditon of the armor. So if you have 20K of armor condition...go FD...and they keep banging on you for a while....they will eventually do enough damage to reduce the condition of the armor to 0. They will also likely end up black barring you and giving you a lot of BF as well. This all happens because they are still able to target you while you are FD. A smart move on the Devs part would be to prevent you from being attackable while FD, but that is an issue for the Smuggler revamp I suppose.
yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:13 am
#3
hey nice work KJFettwhy dont you post this information in every other professions boards as well, after all we dont get enough grief when we feign.........
JoNakU
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:18 am
#4
KJFett wrote:
Hey JoNakU..funny I shoud run into over here as well
JoNakU wrote:
Are there exploits to pull someone out of feign death?
They just seem like an exploit seems we seem them so rarely. It is a special used by one profession. It is called a 'posture up" attack..it makes you stand. How do you end FD? by standing up..so guess what the attack does? It end FD.
Anyway to stop those exploits?
Posture Up defense.....likely only in skill tapes. or the rifleman profession
Can you/logout while you feign death?
Never done this myself...I don't think you can /logout since you have to be sitting to /logout. You could /quit tho I am sure.
Andhow on earth cansomeone reduce your armor to 0 condition while you feign death?
All dmg that that is not blocked by your armor is reduced from the coniditon of the armor. So if you have 20K of armor condition...go FD...and they keep banging on you for a while....they will eventually do enough damage to reduce the condition of the armor to 0. They will also likely end up black barring you and giving you a lot of BF as well. This all happens because they are still able to target you while you are FD. A smart move on the Devs part would be to prevent you from being attackable while FD, but that is an issue for the Smuggler revamp I suppose.
(1) Has the smuggler correspondent raised to the Devs that they need to fix the posture up vulnerability of FD?
(2) For making armor drop to 0, even though you can target someone who is FD, can a ranged person keep attacking the smuggler so that their armor goes down to zero?
KJFett
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:20 am
#5
It's already plastered all over our forum. Not that any of them would actually come here and read any of it. They all know we are gimped. I doubt you will see anyone changing their profession so they can make us stand from FD. And since the last one about the armor is a confirmed greif....let them do it...report them for it and get them banned. We don't need their type around here anyways. You act like I gave out the code to Fort Knox or something. 
yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:23 am
#6
Oh great you have to code to Fort Knox! Well lets just blab that little secret as well.......
No really if you have it let us know.....
KJFett
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:34 am
#7
It is *POST EDITED BY NATIONAL SECURITY PROGRAM X-3000GT*
DO NOT POST CODES TO FORT KNOX ON THE INTERENT.
Wow....guess I can't post that info for you....sorry 
Obeewana_Doobie
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:44 am
#8
You probably just triggered some government search engine with that last one. If someone knocks on your door today, don't answer.
Delroh
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:51 am
#9
KJFett wrote:
And since the last one about the armor is a confirmed greif....let them do it...report them for it and get them banned.
And where is this Documentation? Last time a CSR came out and I had 5 Guys pounding me for a hour killing my armor he stood there for about 30 seconds to a min and said he "see nothing wrong here".
I have never had any in getting a csr to understand it, they jsut tell me then dont use the skill.
Council Member of the SHJO
KJFett
Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:59 am
#10
Delroh wrote:
KJFett wrote:
And since the last one about the armor is a confirmed greif....let them do it...report them for it and get them banned.
And where is this Documentation? Last time a CSR came out and I had 5 Guys pounding me for a hour killing my armor he stood there for about 30 seconds to a min and said he "see nothing wrong here".
I have never had any in getting a csr to understand it, they jsut tell me then dont use the skill.
It seems more an issue of what CSR you get, the tone you use with them, and what mood they are in that day. Being told not to use the skill as a way of preventing a bug that is in the game allowing players to greif us is not a valid response. Report it as a greif by one or more players on you. Greifs are handled different from a bug in a special. This does fall under the games definition of griefing.
Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:16 am
#11
JoNakU wrote:
(1) Has the smuggler correspondent raised to the Devs that they need to fix the posture up vulnerability of FD?
Several times.
(2) For making armor drop to 0, even though you can target someone who is FD, can a ranged person keep attacking the smuggler so that their armor goes down to zero?
Yup
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse! 
Hobbs_Nguyen
Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:31 am
#12
They shouldn't be able to target you when you feign death. That's kind of the point. It should tag you with "the corpse of <name%gt;" instead for everyone except those in your group. They should be able to tell when you're feigning death so they don't freak out when you do it.
JoNakU
Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:38 am
#13
that would be cool if in FD, other players see you as a corpse.
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