Smuggler Archive

Thread: Exploits To Overcome Feign Death

yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:29 am
#14






Hobbs_Nguyen wrote:
They shouldn't be able to target you when you feign death. That's kind of the point. It should tag you with "the corpse of





The dev's had made it clear that Feign is not made for PVP and that is why we are still open for attack, and I dought it will change. Still, if you are just tef'd and not overt you can get up and not be attacked when the tef is gone. You wanna see an uber kid get mad pull that one on them. The meditate (if you have TKA) the damage away right in front of them.



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Geevo
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:11 pm
#15






SlicerGirl wrote:

I've feigned in PvP, and had a group waiting for my pools to regen so they could startleshot me out of feign. However it didn't work. I then tested this theory with my friend who is a MRM, and every special he had would not break my feign. I do not have skill tapes or attachments to enhance this, and my template is Master Smuggler, TKM, Fencer 4/4/0/0, Pistoleer 0/0/3/0, so I don't believe I have natural defenses vs. this.


Has this happened to anyone personally? I think it might have been a fluke. Technically you are incapacitated when you feign since you are not able to speak in spatial. If you are prone or KD, you would be able to interact.






I have let people try to posture-change me out of FD ... never worked so we are safe (as far as I can tell).



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yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:18 pm
#16






Hobbs_Nguyen wrote:

It should be, however. At least that's my take. My goal is not to make Smuggler a powerful combat class. More... defensive. We work a dangerous profession, but unlike commandos, pistoleers and all, killing should not be our forte. We should have abilities that screw up the other players ability to attack us so we can make a get away. The inability to tell when someone is dead when someone is dead when using Feign Death would be good. Then people would either lose interest in us... or take a chance and waste their time to see if we get up.

Of course, that's just my opinion.



If they did that they would have to due somthing to balance it (i.e. have posture up work)because it would be to powerful, that is simply they way this game works. Fact is feign works exactly the way it is ment to work, to fool weak minded NPC and stupid animals. It was never ment for PVP, and while i see your pont and it would be fun to have itin a PVP situation everyone would get that skill tree and no one would be able to DB anyone. You have to put feign in perspective with the rest of the game, while it will save you from a DB thier has to be a price you pay, that price is being open to attack.




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SlicerGirl
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:19 pm
#17


Thanks Geevo. I think feign is a good method to avoid the DB, allow for reinforcements, and return to PvP. Either that or a timeout when I need a break to go get a drink without worrying about someone killing me AFK. I've read in other threads outside this forum people complaining smugglers have no honor. My response to that is if it doesn't pay me well, then what good is honor. The design allowed me to be whatever I wanted to be, I chose to be acriminal.



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yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:23 pm
#18

honor, lol...We are smugglers and they call dirty fighting, dirty fighting for a reason. People have told me to get up when i feigned and that i had no honor, my responce has always been:


"be right back, im getting some chips and a beer, see you when my tef is gone."



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KodaVeers
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:34 pm
#19






SlicerGirl wrote:


Thanks Geevo. I think feign is a good method to avoid the DB, allow for reinforcements, and return to PvP. Either that or a timeout when I need a break to go get a drink without worrying about someone killing me AFK. I've read in other threads outside this forum people complaining smugglers have no honor. My response to that is if it doesn't pay me well, then what good is honor. The design allowed me to be whatever I wanted to be, I chose to be acriminal.






I don't remember smugglers being samurai..

Then again i would have taken that as a compliment...



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Ipseck
Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:34 pm
#20



yimaz wrote:
honor, lol...We are smugglers and they call dirty fighting, dirty fighting for a reason. People have told me to get up when i feigned and that i had no honor, my responce has always been:
"be right back, im getting some chips and a beer, see you when my tef is gone."





lol I never tell them that.. I always say "oh alright just a second..." wait for their response. "hmm lemme try again" etc etc just stringing them along for as long as possible... as long as their camping my useless toon, they're not attacking someone else





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Geevo
Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:19 pm
#21

Worst case...I got to Taco Bell while FD (yes I really have done that).



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BloodMonk
Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:30 pm
#22

Were does the "the devs have stated FD is not a PVP move" quotes keep coming from?


As far as I know ONE SOE minky stated HE considered FD a PVE only move, but it was not his place to make this statement as his responsabilities for SWG were for seomthing completely different


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yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:04 pm
#23






BloodMonk wrote:

Were does the "the devs have stated FD is not a PVP move" quotes keep coming from?


As far as I know ONE SOE minky stated HE considered FD a PVE only move, but it was not his place to make this statement as his responsabilities for SWG were for seomthing completely different


Sly






It was answered in a 19 questions a way back. I think........They did give us that reason at some point, Caylin would know for sure where and when.



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Smuggler_Caylin
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:09 pm
#24

The PVE only comment came from PhoenixOrion when Taurin apparently informed him via PM that use of Feign death in a PVP situation was not intended, or some such thing.


Not a 19 questions deal.


However, I want a real official comment about this, because I don't agree with that take.



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yimaz
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:29 pm
#25

ty Caylin!

Hey lets make it our next 19 questions question...lol.



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Dracovious
Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:33 pm
#26

I can't honestly believe the Dev'swould be so stupid to create a PvE only ability.



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