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Thread: Bad trend for smugglers.

DeIncRampage
Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:11 am
#79






WayneInAustin wrote:

I know a lot of non-master smugglers will probably blast me for this, but you could move the Feign Death ability to Master level and not have "levels" of the ability. I'd REALLY rather NOT do this, but it would be better than getting the ability nerfed to hell like panic shot and low blow. I'm bettingmost BH wouldnt be willing to master smuggler just to get the ability.







I was thinking about this also, but since a BH only needs inv3 to hunt Jedi, you will still have a fair share of BH's mastering Smuggler just for the skill. If you check out the BH forums, you will see that almost all BH's are now Master TK or Fencer or Commando(with bh skills 3000) or the dabble in smuggler. that is about it. Some are going for pistoleer. Remember, that since Jedi have been made ungodly to kill once they are knights, that the BH's gatta do whatever they can to pull out a win. The REAL FIX would be to get rid of Jedi, but we all know that will never happen.


The only way to save FD would be to BOTH move the skill to master smuggler, AND have the ability to hunt Jedi moved to the master BH skill(this will make half the BH's mad, and the other half would love it). Most of the hard core BH's hate "dabblers" and would probally support this.




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jbezorg
Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:17 am
#80




TashunkaSapa wrote:

1) The sig is out-of-date








Yeah, you forgot Novice Commando


Re: How is this template? Pistoleer Forum 08-05-2004 05:08 PM




"There's one, frag her ass" - What the Storm Trooper who spotted Leia should have said
/panicshot - "You have succefully delayed the smuggler revamp 10 seconds"

jbezorg
Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:27 am
#81






jbezorg wrote:




TashunkaSapa wrote:

1) The sig is out-of-date







Yeah, you forgot Novice Commando


Re: How is this template? Pistoleer Forum 08-05-2004 05:08 PM




Oh, it only took 5 min. to find this info out. All I had to do was go to your profile and look for topics covering templates in you posts.

Message Edited by jbezorg on 08-14-2004 10:46 AM




"There's one, frag her ass" - What the Storm Trooper who spotted Leia should have said
/panicshot - "You have succefully delayed the smuggler revamp 10 seconds"

MISTagent01
Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:51 pm
#82






IcE2o wrote:

My prediction is everyone will cry for a nerf on feign death after they move on from force run 3.

What's left for them to take from smugglers?


Hey I know! Smugglers should only be able to slice one weapon a month, and lets cap it at 10%. Armor is too powerful before slices so lets take that away.


Oh, we can take their pistols away and give them rocks! Smugglers are useless in pvp anyway!






I think my ribs still hurt from reading this.


All kidding aside, I know I'm getting flamed for this (so I'm going to suggest it and then run like a coward outta here......)


Remove FD as a PvP ability, as it was never intended to be one (GreenMarine stated this at Fan Fest when it was brought up.)


Smugglers still have it for PvE, Jedi and BHs realize it's useless to them, for all ensuing purposes anyway, and they drop our beloved profession.


I know some devs, and this is most likely a route they would take (not saying it's 100%, just saying it's a likely possibility.)



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HOTDOG
Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:02 pm
#83

Alright...


Moving Feign Death to Master doesn't solve anything:


Jedi can be Jedi (let's say, Master Lightsaber) and Master Smuggler with no problem


Bounty Hunters can take Master Smuggler and have investigation 3 which would allow them to hunt Jedi.


so you would still have abuse of the system, granted, at a higher cost to the offender but this solves nothing.



Caylin's suggestion is the best so far- I suggestion in another post akin to this one a week ago that they should:


1. Make the Feign Death success throw far harder to achieve in PvP- (maybe 25-35% chance of success at Master) if this is possible. I can only imagine that it is because there are already differences in PvP combat and PvE combat.


2. Put a timer on Feign Death that prevents you from FD'ing for 10-20 minutes after you stand up. Yeah, I know this sucks but think about it- if you're not abusing FD you really only need to do it once.


3. Make a person who feigns truly look like a corpse i.e. put that "Tevin Stargunner's Corpse" sign above my head when I go down.


4. Do not allow the corpse to be attacked. So as to prevent "black rot" and griefing.




I think that would fix the problem without truly nerfing us-






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TyrranSkorr
Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:24 pm
#84

If players such as BH and Jedi are taking advantage of the smugglers tree.... the smuggling profession should not be changed period. BH and Jedi should be nerfed so that FDing no longer helps them in the specific situation.


I'm a 4/0/4/0 smuggler Ihave it for RPing purposes (and convienance)pushing FD into the master tree will hurt more people then help.



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TashunkaSapa
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:07 am
#85







jbezorg wrote:


Yeah, you forgot Novice Commando



Actually, I mastered it yesterday. I'll have Master Smuggler done today or tomorrow.




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PhoenixOrion
Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:12 am
#86






MISTagent01 wrote:


Remove FD as a PvP ability, as it was never intended to be one (GreenMarine stated this at Fan Fest when it was brought up.)


Smugglers still have it for PvE, Jedi and BHs realize it's useless to them, for all ensuing purposes anyway, and they drop our beloved profession.


I know some devs, and this is most likely a route they would take (not saying it's 100%, just saying it's a likely possibility.)





I will fly down to Texas myself and sit on their doorstep if they even consider removing Feign Death, either in PVP or PVE.


Why should OUR profession suffer b/c of the idiocy of another profession, in this case Jedi aka SOE's little babies?





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