Smuggler Archive

Thread: Tiggs: Getting to know the Smugglers and our profession!

kingfarooq218
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:16 pm
#79

I have to say I could not agree with you more Dreven. Since I have started coming to these boards I think my biggest point of frustration has been the lack of answers on these issues. Sure I want to smuggle, of course I want it as soon as possible (I am paying $15/month!), sure there are some amazing ideas from this community I would love to see! But I can be patient as long as I know where we are at with these issues. If the Dev team would communicate with us I think we could all be much more patient, and in fact happy about waiting.


I work in IT. I have learned over the years that the fastest way to piss someone off that is having problems, regardless of the severity, is to not communicate to them that you understand the issue, you are working on it, here is an ETA, and regularly updates as to the status. ESPECIALLY when you miss your ETA!!


I honestly believe that this community is filled with very reasonable people that just feel so trampled on by the ACTIONS of the Devs with little to no communication from them.


Devs! All we are asking for is two-way communication with you guys! I think if you were to open yourselves up to that you would find these forums here a much less antagonistic environment, perhaps even a constructive tool.



--Salazar Farooq

Shadowfire



--Salazar Farooq
M.Smuggler/M.Pistoleer/Scout/TKA
Shadowfire
Chavabegga
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:27 pm
#80

/applaud Dreven


That is exactly how I have felt for a long time!! It is communcation that is the root of much of our cynicism. I do not understand the logic behind the Devs not sharing information. All these things that Dreven mentioned that negatively affected us could not have been so bad if it would have been at least stated WHY they happened. Some have never even been admitted to have happened.



Trader Revamp- Loot and Crafted Symbiosis

UDF Inc. Chu'unthor, Talus
-1258, -566
Hollow
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:57 pm
#81



Dreven, you took the words right out of my fingertips. If they would just be in constant communication with us, they would see what a friendly, happy bunch of cynics we are.
DrevenStrobe
Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:05 pm
#82

/bow;


See...communication is a big deal.


And how hard would it be to write up a post saying:


"We will be changing {insert random skill here}. We know this will have a negative impact on your business/playstyle/gaming experience. But we feel that this change is necessary because _________________________________________________________."


Sure, we may initially meet the post with resistance. But, overall, we will accept it more because we won't be stuck standing around scratching our asses wondering what in the hell the Devs were thinking.


Give the above post to Caylin and have him paste it to the rest of the community...or...have Tiggs or TH post it...either way...


I'm not talking about the "empty promises" posts the Devs have given us in the past. That's not communication.


I'm talking about informational posts on things that the Devs KNOW are in the pipe and headed our way. Just a little heads-up...is that too much to ask?



Dreven Strobe (Colonel) Tristyn Strobe
TKM / Master Pistoleer / Master Smuggler / Master Merchant
Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP Starsider Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP
Smuggler 'til the end...and then some.
"Everything I tell you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."
Whysometimes
Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:20 pm
#83

Thank you Dreven! Ive been reading these forums for a while (too bad it took me almost as long to figure out how to post) and that lack of communication is very apparent. I'll second that request for communication.



Geomos Oy'tah, The Master Smuggler
Syzygy-Gorath
Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:34 pm
#84

Dreven, if I were female I'd be asking to have your children. That's exactly the point I was trying to get across when the changes were made to stat migrations with the ID enhancements in publish 8.1. /salute



œ Slone Varnillian œ Eicia Obai œ Panda-Sy œ
Most of the universe's problems can be solved by the application of a brick to the side of the right head.
The problem is if you don't have a big enough brick or can't find the right head. The devil is in the details.
œ Galena Varnillian œ Ammon œ Gwrtheyrn œ

Chavabegga
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:18 pm
#85






DeQuosaek wrote:

I think the "format" she is looking for is for you to post your issues when it is your turn. That's why she said there is a reason she is only asking a few at a time. There are 30+ other professions in this game you know.


I'd rather have her go a few at a time and really get the issues down then trying to juggle 30+ professions at once.


Give her a chance, you may end up surprised.







Gotta break them in while they are young. ;-)


And if you are not a smuggler please do not troll our boards. Thank you.





Trader Revamp- Loot and Crafted Symbiosis

UDF Inc. Chu'unthor, Talus
-1258, -566
Selko
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:24 pm
#86

Dreven you are quite correct. Communication is important, infact it's the most important issue we have. We haven't heard anything official in so long we all get disgruntled. If the devs would pop in actually speak to us I know I wouldn't be as bent as I am now.




Selko Embries

Professional Scoundrel
Erillion
Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:34 am
#87

/bumpedy


Ceterum censeo Powerup slicing delendam esse


have fun


Novarider
TomoRainer
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:36 am
#88

Har har, DeQuosaek. I think we've given them enough chances to surprise us. In fact, the only thing that could surprise me is to actually see an SOE employee post in here--my guess is that's their strategy, the collective heart attack the smuggler community will suffer if a higher-up drops by will FINALLY shut us up. Malcontents and Negative Nellys, that smuggler forum; they'll get theirs.

Dreven's spot-on with his request for communication as our top priority. Is there anyone here who would trust a dev or PR dude with a god damn CDEF pistol? Our attitude--our wholly justified, not-our-fault attitude--IS going to be a problem when it comes to any kind of interaction between smugglers and SOE. The only way to even begin to reduce the poisonous sense of bitterness and betrayal we all harbor is communication: let us know about upcoming changes; if the changes may seem negative (e.g. the spice downer nerf), let us know why, that you have a plan and don't actually hate us; let us know about little treats coming our way; let us know, if nothing else, that you're LISTENING. And above all, stop lying to us. If we're 5000th in the queue for fixes, don't tell us we should see an update soon. If we might get an improvement but we might not--e.g. Liik--let us know that nothing's certain, don't leave us dangling until the patch comes in and oh what do you know, we've been neglected again. If you don't know the answer to our questions, SAY SO. Even if you think it'll come across as clueless I don't care, it's better than one more vague falsehood to tack onto the end of ElectricNomad's list of SOE lies.

Right now I wouldn't trust a single word spoken about the smuggler profession by anyone who isn't or has never been a smuggler. The number-one, red-hot priority for smugglers, in my bitter and standoffish opinion, is allowing us to trust you again. Fix that, and maybe then we can get around to what's wrong with our profession in-game.







Smuggling uphill both ways in a Tatooine sandstorm since July '03 | Shipwright to the stars! Help put my virtual kids through college with a new X-Wing today | Ye Olde Pilot Correspondent


blackcomit
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:44 am
#89

ENYONE KNOW A WSMUGLER MACRO FOR GETIN FP!!!!!????

DrevenStrobe
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:25 am
#90




blackcomit wrote:
ENYONE KNOW A WSMUGLER MACRO FOR GETIN FP!!!!!????





Message Edited by DrevenStrobe on 09-16-2004 12:26 PM



Dreven Strobe (Colonel) Tristyn Strobe
TKM / Master Pistoleer / Master Smuggler / Master Merchant
Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP Starsider Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP
Smuggler 'til the end...and then some.
"Everything I tell you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."
Chavabegga
Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:17 pm
#91






blackcomit wrote:

ENYONE KNOW A WSMUGLER MACRO FOR GETIN FP!!!!!????








My eyes!! My eyes!! Oh it burns!!! It burns!!!


That's it, I am going to be a history teacher but I am forcing my students to work on their english.




Trader Revamp- Loot and Crafted Symbiosis

UDF Inc. Chu'unthor, Talus
-1258, -566
Page 7 of 8