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Thread: Just waxing intellectual on the future of SWG...what's YOUR opinion?

SmugglingSkipper
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:44 pm
#79

its funny how this is the ONLY MMO that people get really pissed off at the devs for. I mean at least 3/4 of the professions out there need work and A TON of people want there profession revamped. o wait nvm Everquest2 gameplay pisses people off too, but hold on, SWG and EQ2 are made from the same people, im seeing a trend here. Don't get me wrong, SWG is the best video game i've ever played. But i mean come on hardly anyone is truly happy. Why can't the devs just take our advice?



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Ternque01
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:54 pm
#80






GanymedePharuu wrote:

very awesome to hear joras... you know, between that inspirational story and kyr'yxus asking me to come back. i may swing by Sunrunner sometime soon.


although i haven't evenlogged onto SWG more than once since i moved to queens


but seriously i've been very dissappointed with recent developments. /shrug.


maybe i'll quit, maybe i won't... i dunno...







If you quit, know that I love you!



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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
fishbrains
Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:56 pm
#81



Ternque01 wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:

very awesome to hear joras... you know, between that inspirational story and kyr'yxus asking me to come back. i may swing by Sunrunner sometime soon.

although i haven't even logged onto SWG more than once since i moved to queens

but seriously i've been very dissappointed with recent developments. /shrug.

maybe i'll quit, maybe i won't... i dunno...




If you quit, know that I love you!



he's not allowed to quit, as Sunrunner's grandaddy smuggler I have forbidden it.



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Master Smuggler/Master Officer
Sunrunner's Elder Smuggler


JediArashi
Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:16 am
#82






yimaz wrote:

removing them from the GSW and lastly bring back perma-death:







Haha!!! Yim called it the GSW again!!!! Woohoo! Welcome back bud!



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Eavik
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:47 am
#83

Not that anybody cares - but after giving it more thought, I've decided not to quit the game completely. However, I am going to cancel 2 of my 3 accounts. I can no longer justify paying $45 a month for a broken game. That will leave me with one character with a token respec left, and free up some money for me to go try a new game as well. If I find I like a different game better, then I will probably axe my final SWG character as well.


Not sure what I'm going to respec to...I no longer see any reason to be a Ranger, CH, BE, or BH anymore...not really into the new slicing system either. Maybe I'll just finally break down and go Jedi like I'm apparentlysupposed to.


GanymedePharuu
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:07 am
#84



fishbrains wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:

very awesome to hear joras... you know, between that inspirational story and kyr'yxus asking me to come back. i may swing by Sunrunner sometime soon.

although i haven't even logged onto SWG more than once since i moved to queens

but seriously i've been very dissappointed with recent developments. /shrug.

maybe i'll quit, maybe i won't... i dunno...




If you quit, know that I love you!



he's not allowed to quit, as Sunrunner's grandaddy smuggler I have forbidden it.




haha thanks Axob... i uh... like you too

and i gotta do what Joras commands of me.
what is thy bidding, my master?



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I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
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fishbrains
Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:36 pm
#85



GanymedePharuu wrote:


fishbrains wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:

very awesome to hear joras... you know, between that inspirational story and kyr'yxus asking me to come back. i may swing by Sunrunner sometime soon.

although i haven't even logged onto SWG more than once since i moved to queens

but seriously i've been very dissappointed with recent developments. /shrug.

maybe i'll quit, maybe i won't... i dunno...




If you quit, know that I love you!



he's not allowed to quit, as Sunrunner's grandaddy smuggler I have forbidden it.




haha thanks Axob... i uh... like you too

and i gotta do what Joras commands of me.
what is thy bidding, my master?


You must return and restart Shadow Kings...it's a great concept and the Sunrunner RP community needs it. Plus I'm hated by like half the RP community cause I took Moemeov's mission and killed him so they need a smuggler that they like in addition to Kyr



Joras 'Godfather' Kal'lan/Aethen Dor

Master Smuggler/Master Officer
Sunrunner's Elder Smuggler


GanymedePharuu
Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:41 pm
#86



fishbrains wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:


fishbrains wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:


GanymedePharuu wrote:

very awesome to hear joras... you know, between that inspirational story and kyr'yxus asking me to come back. i may swing by Sunrunner sometime soon.

although i haven't even logged onto SWG more than once since i moved to queens

but seriously i've been very dissappointed with recent developments. /shrug.

maybe i'll quit, maybe i won't... i dunno...




If you quit, know that I love you!



he's not allowed to quit, as Sunrunner's grandaddy smuggler I have forbidden it.




haha thanks Axob... i uh... like you too

and i gotta do what Joras commands of me.
what is thy bidding, my master?


You must return and restart Shadow Kings...it's a great concept and the Sunrunner RP community needs it. Plus I'm hated by like half the RP community cause I took Moemeov's mission and killed him so they need a smuggler that they like in addition to Kyr




they don't like ky haha.
and you killed Moemeov? hehe why?

alright... maybe i will return and reform the Shadow Kings. but first i have to write some stories to explain my absence. hmm...



cccccccccccccccccccc
Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
Ishiro
Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:53 pm
#87

First let me say I agree with Mikeil Dalzierion that this board is very mature for SWG boards and I'd like to add to this discussion, my apologies if I offend anyone with my words, I'm not trying to create a flamewar, I'm trying to be a part of this good discussion.


I've been in this game since August of 2004, I liked the Star Wars movies and I liked the idea of being part of the Star Wars universe, this is admittedly my first MMO, but I think I chose wisely.


I've had many professions I've delved into including Swordsman and Smuggler, right now my template is probably the most fun I've had in this game and my guild is a group of good natured people


I'm not a huge fan of whining and complaining and I think there has been alot of it (not here too much I notice), I think if you don't like something, whining and compliaining gets you little, maybe I'm old fashioned or out dated in my thinking, but I findmany complaints to the devs to be misinformed and unfair against a group who probably do like this game as much as we do the player base, I truly believe this game is good.


Don't get me wrong, I think the devs do miss on some things from the players and do tend to make themselves seeminglylook bad when they don't respond to legimate complaints from players.


When the CU hit I hated alot of stuff, but I liked alot of stuff, forgive me if my memory is bad but didn't people complain before the CU about things?, and aren't they complaining now? There is no pleasing everyone and I think the devs are trying thier hardest to make this a game we can all enjoy.


Pre CU I could solo Giant and canyon krayts by myself with buffs and master swords, now I can't and I die if I take them on alone, it ticked me off but I understand this change is nescessary.


Noone can expect this game to be exactly what they want, I truely believe no MMO can, I thinkthat therewill besomething you'll dislike in every MMO you play and if you don't realizethat reality then maybe MMO's arent for you and you should go back to playing your PSP.



I think this game is going in a good direction, will every patch be something we enjoy?. I think it won't be, will the devs do things we hate, heck yes!, but does anyone really believe that the devs are trying to ruin the game?, I mean honestly, do you really think that?


SWG will survive and it will not go bankrupt, because the truly loyal and patient fanbase will keep it alive along with the arriving new players curious about SWG, it is to me still a good game and I have enough basic understanding that this game will never be perfect and my patience pays off for me, if Im unhappy I should leave, but so far I'm content with this game, I still like SWG and I'm not leaving, I'm having a hell of a time as Smuggler.


Caic / Oshoni - Loyal SWG player






..:: Oshoni: Master Swordsman Forever! ::..

..:: Caicleor: Pending...::..
maxtheusher
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:01 pm
#88



Ishiro wrote:
I think this game is going in a good direction, will every patch be something we enjoy?. I think it won't be, will the devs do things we hate, heck yes!, but does anyone really believe that the devs are trying to ruin the game?, I mean honestly, do you really think that?





Nope, really don't think anyone here thinks that. Some of the more annoying people during the major changes do make that accusation, like during the CU.

What I personally think, and it's an idea that I think is shared with more than one person around these parts, is that some marketing department, either in SOE or in LA, seems to have it in their head that Jedi is their golden goose, and despite their lack of actual gaming knowledge, exert an inordinate amount of control over development.

So no, nobody is trying to ruin the game, except inadvertently.



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La-grange
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:18 pm
#89

Well I have given some thought to this subject. I think the person who compaired SWG to the titanic is probably closer to the truth.


The CU is just one step to the systematic conversion of SWG to EQ2 in space. My personal opinion on the CU wasn't very fond from day 1 when it hit the TC. Yes we had issues with the old system but the old system was working. All it needed was some tweaking. Not a complete overhaul that it got. I mean the devs had two years of feedback. Yes alot of flaming trash but some really good ideas on how to balance the game out.


What I think happened was the original path for SWG wasn't even looked at. What this game is turning into is a forced grouping, loot camping game. Receint changes to the medic and smuggler professions support the theory that the current EQ2 devs are removing crafting from the game almost completely. It's going to come down to "if you want to craft then you have to loot". Not the orginal crafting system that actually rewarded long time crafters that actually took the time to gather the good resources (before vet rewards) and experiment with their product. If you want to do anything worthwhile in the game you now need to be a double combat master grouped with at least one jedi.


Before a single combat mastery would do. Stacking while part of the game wasn't necessary to get around before the CU. My weaponsmith/TKM friend would be a good example of that. Heck if they wanted to fix stacking of any sorts then the soloution is currently in place with armor encumberance. Simply take the highest value and go with that. It would have made stacking combat professions somewhat meaningful yet not gamebreaking and not a requirement.


The level system really did it for me. When my alt on day 2 got waxed by a devil gulginaw in one hit on talus of all places my dreams of having a crafter went up in smoke. I wasn't out adventuring, I was trying to get out of my house. Now that So'ren has CL64 I find ground combat lacking. Dont get me wrong. I think its cool that if i take too much damage I can /diveshot behind a hill and run like crazy. Space combat kinda reminded me of what combat was like. I am reffering to the time before I had to use buffs to get off more than five shots and wear armor.To those of us left, that was back atlaunch. With my 30/30 ubese and my DH-17 snub I was able to wreak havock on white to yellow conned npcs of up to three and do so without a break in combat. Combat was fast, exciting, and fun. It usually didn't require me to run any further than 90m from the mission area. Unlike now which requires me to pull one npc while taking damage from the other one or two in the area and running up to 240m from the mission area. Then moving back to the mission area and waiting till my health bar regens enough for yet another attempt at another npc. Boring and time consuming. Of course these days if your wearing ubese your not a carbineer and the DH-17 was nerfed to hell and back.


I have other issues with SWG these days. If it werent for space combat and the time I have left on my sub I think I would have left a while back. I find the ground game about as boring as it comes.


Alot comes to mind. But with receint figures SWG just barely broke even with the CU. They got a 5k increase in subscriptions after loosing a conservatively estimated 51k subscriptions (alts, people who left the game, ect,ect). Meaning that SWG isn't going to do much better than it is now. And I think that as people get fed up and leave then the situation is only going to get worse. But those are just my opinions.





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La-grange
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:19 pm
#90


whoops.


Message Edited by La-grange on 07-08-200503:21 PM

Message Edited by La-grange on 07-08-2005 03:21 PM



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maxtheusher
Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:27 pm
#91

DOUBLE POST! GET THE VAT OF BOILING OIL!



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