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Thread: This is the saddest SWG day of my life...

Aendracon
Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:39 am
#66






yimaz wrote:


I use to feel like a bad ass smuggler and now I feel like a n00b in the eyes of the player base, a player base that "if you not going jedi why play" seems to only want one thing and that is to be a jedi. Reason for this you ask....Its simple SOE made an alpha profession that is better then every other in jedi and short changed everyone on else. I once said a long time ago, make every profession as much funas jediand less people will want it.My profession and so many others are nothing more then a steping stone to jedi. Just something to do until you unlock. I use to be a bad ass in PVP with my triple threat I use to be an indemand slicer, Ive never been able to smuggle and ive never really felt like Han Solo but I always held out hope that we would in fact recieve a re-vamp. After 2yrs of BS I see now it may very well never happen and Smuggler will be just another time kill to get to jedi. Im right there with you veela, as a smuggler threw and threw it sucks to log in and no longer feel like someone special, it sucks to feel like ive wasted my time in hoping the the person I want to be in star wars will never be all he can and should be. It sucks that i dont play the GCW cause of jedi's I dont go overt cause of jedi's and I dont feel like a bad ass anymore cause of jedi's.


What sucks most of all is SOE will never read this thread or care about anything but Jedi and the bottom line.





QFE


Eloquent and straight to the point.





Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
Utumno
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:46 am
#67


To the comments about grouping.. "Roles" in combat are lame.. Seeing this game become EQ/WoW is what kills me.. I dont wanna play a damn "chanter" or whatnot.. I am a Master SMUGGLER.. I have waited so long its sick to fill my "role" in the game.. Its still not here and rather than getting the ability to live my title.. I get a new "role" and new rules..


I felt sickest the day I say a message preCU of what to expect.. I read "Dont think of it as relearning SWG, but rather a whole new game"


So who here asked for a new game?.. I know I didnt...

ApollyonTB
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:39 am
#68

excellent post....I think you expressed the way too many of us feel right now. Its been over two years....and we have ONLY gotten nerfed and kicked around.. two years....



teh Tee-Bagger
Lover of Beer and Pie
Order 67 - "Every Smuggler is now an enemy of SOE and LucasArts."
(quoted by)
Veela "Her Royal Hawtness"


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HeadRoll
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:36 am
#69







yimaz wrote:


I use to feel like a bad ass smuggler and now I feel like a n00b in the eyes of the player base, a player base that "if you not going jedi why play" seems to only want one thing and that is to be a jedi. Reason for this you ask....Its simple SOE made an alpha profession that is better then every other in jedi and short changed everyone on else. I once said a long time ago, make every profession as much funas jediand less people will want it.My profession and so many others are nothing more then a steping stone to jedi. Just something to do until you unlock. I use to be a bad ass in PVP with my triple threat I use to be an indemand slicer, Ive never been able to smuggle and ive never really felt like Han Solo but I always held out hope that we would in fact recieve a re-vamp. After 2yrs of BS I see now it may very well never happen and Smuggler will be just another time kill to get to jedi. Im right there with you veela, as a smuggler threw and threw it sucks to log in and no longer feel like someone special, it sucks to feel like ive wasted my time in hoping the the person I want to be in star wars will never be all he can and should be. It sucks that i dont play the GCW cause of jedi's I dont go overt cause of jedi's and I dont feel like a bad ass anymore cause of jedi's.


What sucks most of all is SOE will never read this thread or care about anything but Jedi and the bottom line.






this sums it up perfectly.



MISTagent01
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:50 pm
#70

/bump for more people to see



V E E L A "her royal hawtness"
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge. I am Jack's Ignored Profession.
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


Aendracon
Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:09 am
#71

Since Veela kind of dedicated this thread to Saakek, SpinningCloud and all the other Vet Smugglers leaving, I´d like to quote the following post:





SpinningCloud wrote:


Have you people lost your marbles? Or respeced out of Smuggler or something?


What is all this "we love Tiggs", "let's appologize to Tiggs", and "let's show the Devs some love" BS?


Let's see...


1. When exactly was the last time Tiggs came to this forum with anything USEFUL for us?


2. When exactly was the last time a DEV came to this forum with anything SUEFUL for us?


3. How long have we been waiting for a revamp?


4. Have the devs started communication on our revamp now that the CU is live?


Someone please explain why we are drooling all over Tiggs and the devs again, I must be dense or something.


I can hear their hallway comments now; "Hey, the Smugglers are happy with us, we can postpone that revamp again with fear of their ire."






That was at 06-03-2005, more than six weeks ago, in a thread named "Smugglers like Tiggs". He took a lot of fire for this post back then, but I´d say he has been proven correct. And I am pretty sure he is not very happy about it.


I´d also like to quote another post from that thread:





Tiggs wrote:

Thanks everyone! =)


I was away at Fan Fest and didn't get a chance to post a reply. I do want to let you know that sometime very soon the In Dev area should be updated with some Smuggler loving. =)






If I am not mistaken, that was the last thread in the Smuggler forum any dev has posted in so far.


My point: If I ever complete the Smugglers Alliance Ace mission, I´ll name my YT-1300 "The Spinning Cloud"


/end of hero worship





Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
Nicolas_Frost
Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:57 am
#72

This thread's been floated since it was eight replies long, but I feel its a good idea to back it up to my computer, in case SOE decides its deserving of a deletion.



Jaecob Maragi
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teufelhundenE4
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:27 am
#73







MISTagent01 wrote:

Why does the playerbase continue to be treated like dog **** on a sidewalk? Why do you think that Jedi are your pathway to success? This is a community...Entertainers and Crafters have made this community a hundred times more "fun" and "exciting" than any amount of Jedi you can throw at me...and you've decimated their numbers by taking their complexity and their usefulness away from them.





You know what the sad fact about this statement is? If you look at all the player feedback threads on bugs and such after a publish, you will notice that about 80% of the people posting their bugs and complaints on publishes are jedi. I knew I was a second class SWG citizen last time I checked one of those threads and that was what I saw. Of course the devs think that jedi is their cash cow in this game, they are the outspoken minority, if their even a minority anymore


It seems that the more a profession complains the more attention they get...fix the squeaky wheel and all that...maybe we should all pick a date here on the smuggler forum and the next time they put up a patch feedback thread we all need to post our complaint about not smuggling (as well as anything else we can think of) and try our best to get as many of our fellow smugglers to do this at the same time. Maybe a dev reading through 80 or more back to back smuggler posts in there will peak their interest in doing something or maybe (gasp) post some sort of info for us.


Of course, I can't live without oxygen so I'm not holding my breath till they do



This poster will be banned in....5....4....3....2....1....(poof)

Message Edited by teufelhundenE4 on 07-20-2005 07:31 AM



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OWPT
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:41 am
#74


I agree whole heartedly with everything in this post. I don't think it is negative criticism, but rather constructive crticism. I must admit though reading through it, I was half expecting to have it deleted so that I could not finish all the pages!


I have been a smuggler since the start of this game, and like most posting here have always held out hope for content, a re-vamp on our prof, and the feel that you are a smuggler like our Star Wars hero's. I will continue to play the game as I too have friends that I would miss.


But please devs, don't take this as a slight. we are asking you to help us please.


Hope that this gets into the right hands.






__S O R S 'A _B L A C K S H A D O W_
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SMUGGLER OUT OF TYRENA
CAPTAIN OF THE SHADOWHOUND



SmugglerPie
Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:47 am
#75






OWPT wrote:


But please devs, don't take this as a slight. we are asking you to help us please.






He's being polite. I won't.


Get off of your butts and do what you promised to do. Stop misleading and lying to your paying customers. Stop favoring one profession above all others. 2 years is too long to wait for something you should have done right from the start.


It's not rocket science. Open up the lines of communication and try being honest for a change. It's good foryour karma.




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Kells
Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:20 am
#76


I've been a Smuggler since day one of this game. I wouldn't play this game anymore evenif someone offered to pay me. It's not worth my time, there are so many other things to do. After two yearsof playingmy opinion of SOE isn't very flattering. Anyways, good luck to all those staying...You'll need it.



Bo' Tinsu
MISTagent01
Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:56 am
#77



JediNizar2 wrote:
Why don't we post this thread in every Forum and every day we dumb it until some devs give us an answer.
English is not my native language, so i can't do it well my self. but with your permission Veela i can copy/past it to every forum and change it a bit so it will go nit for Smuggler only but to all other prof except Jedi!!





You could post it in every profession forum...however, I don't think you'd get far, since the mods seem to frown upon cross server trolling.



V E E L A "her royal hawtness"
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge. I am Jack's Ignored Profession.
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


Taln2
Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:00 am
#78

I really wouldn't recommend that. The moderators would just summon the CSR SS to these forums and start deleting and banning people left and right for all the "COC violations" of late. I'm hoping they're just taking a respite and letting us vent this anger that they caused (if so, thanks).





Corbin Greylocke
The Master Thief

Empire at War - destined for GOTY 2006.
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