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Thread: Ceterum Censeo .... Exploit Hotfixed ! YEAH ! (I wont bug you anymore :-)

Delroh
Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:16 am
#66






Erillion wrote:


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I am a WS on Eclipse. I agree with poster, this issue needs to be fixed yesterday. It's frustrating losing business because you refuse to sell exploited weapons

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Amen to that. But its hard to prove that it was sliced using an exploit, unless the WS/Smuggler is stupid enough to use PU sliced and unsliced weapons from the same factory run on the same vendor so the percentage increase over the base weapon can be calculated. Or uses powerups that result in a higher rating than the 35 % maximum slice increase over the best theoretically possible weapon (which is even harder to proof, but has happened on Flurry at least). Also 1000 identical 35 % sliced weapons might give you a hint :-)


I think the HONEST Weaponsmiths use EVEN more cash to this exploit than smugglers. You might repost this issue on the WS board and keep bumping it till the exploit is fixed.


Once again ... 5 stars to anyone bumping this thread. (cant 5 star Jibbrish and Phoenix for reasons unknown - will try another day).


Have fun


Novarider



Ceterum censeo PU slicing delendam esse

Message Edited by Erillion on 09-17-2004 08:29 AM






The Problem is even ones that ahve have had nothing happen to them. We have a Master Smuggler/Weaponsmith on our server that was stupid enough to put from the same crate on his server with and w/o PU slices. he was called on it. and we are not talking like 20-30 rilfes. we are talking in the hundreds. And what happened to him? Nothing, not a damn thing. yet i fear If i was even to PU slice my own gun that I woudl try to sign on the next day with a "Ban".



Its also frustrating loosing all these contracts.




History of Smugglers in SWG
Bankie Snu'gins-Elder Jedi Council Member of the SHJO
Toke'n Snu'gins - Master Shipwright, Owner of Up In Smoke Starships
Brodee Snu'gins - Master Smuggler/Pilot for the Hutts
Vendor Dropoff Waypoint -1342 -1238 Outside Safe Haven Corellia.
"A Friend will help you move, A Real Friend Will Help You Move a Body......." "Everyone needs a little Bankie now and then." -Patricia Silverfox "Cause There's Good Deeds, and there is good Intention. They're as far appart as Heaven and Hell" -Ben Harper "Ground on Down"
SpinningCloud
Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:36 am
#67

Offem,


Sorry that comment shows a major lack of both logic and ethics.


The devs have stated, unequivocally, that it is an exploit.


Your lame-logic that if they haven't fixed it yet then it's ok with them is simply a poor attempt to justify something that, I believe, you know is wrong as well as the rest of us.


Personally I'll dress-down, in public, anyone that asks me to do one...fortunately I haven't had to yet.


And I really don't think the names of people that are doing these should be protected. They should be published in a public forum.


People that do things like this will take any opportunity to further their own agenda to the detriment of the rest of us. Game or not, they are basically without ethics. I sure wouldn't want to play any other game with people that either thought it was 'cute' to cheat or tried to justify their cheating in any way.


What kills me is that if SOE will so blatantly ignore an exploit (by their own admission) why do ANY of us think they are going to do squat for improving Smugglers game?




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Erillion
Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:18 am
#68

Offem ,


Exhibit A: Smuggler Correspondent - based on dev feedback - says POWERUP SLICING IS AN EXPLOIT (you can ask him)




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Minutes ago, DigiDante and I were teasing CSR Melissa with the power up slicing and the lack of action taken, we ended up by getting the way to handle the situation :


CSRMelissaL: kgm If a player has asked you exploit then you need to /report him and they submit a Harassment ticket.


CSRMelissaL: kgm You need to do both

She also admitted that though it's not SOE's policy to discuss sanctions taken against players qith other players,

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there have been account deleted for cheaters, including power up slicing exploiters.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's not a fix yet, but it's better than nothing, now we know how to react.

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Although I personally doubt that a lot of people have been warned, suspended or banned for PU Slicing. In the above mentioned thread you will also find a screenshot of this conversation.



Does that answer your question / is this the proof you requested ?




Have fun


Novarider




PS: To the One Star Bandit - /blowkiss ...... verreck
Isleh
Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:30 pm
#69






offem wrote:

Ok, first things first, u all should not be so hostile to questions on this forum or take anything so personally. I dont care what the csr's say about this being an exploit because they have done nothing about it so i would guess that they may say things to discurage people from doing it but they them see it as only a minor issue that will most likely be handled if they ever do a revamp. If it was something as simple as a minor patch which i know it is only a few dozen lines of code it would have been done a long time ago but it wasnt, so they need to just come out and say that this is no longer an exploit but it is apart of the game now or say it will be handled with smuggler revamp which will never happen as well.


Please lighten up on this subject i still dont see how pupslicing negatively affects the gaming experience and if it does well then you should still lighten up, this is only a video game not RL.






I don't want to play with cheaters. There is no grey area here so stop looking for it. If you cheat, it's still wrong regardless of the fact that you were caught or not and regardless of the fact that it was easy for you to do so.


Would you be so complacent if there was a exploit that put your character at a disadvantage? How on earth can an exploit that givesan advantage be any different?


There is a simple example I used before and I'll use it again here. Lets play a game of chess offem, I get to cheat, you don't. How much fun do you think would you have if my first move is always queen takes king? There is nothing physically stopping me from moving my queen from taking the king and nothing has been added to the game in 100's of years to prevent me from doing so. It must be okay for me to do it then.


Now what do you do? Do you get me to stop cheating so the game becomes a fair challenge again or do you start cheating and make the game pointless?

offem
Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:55 am
#70

Ok, first things first, u all should not be so hostile to questions on this forum or take anything so personally. I dont care what the csr's say about this being an exploit because they have done nothing about it so i would guess that they may say things to discurage people from doing it but they them see it as only a minor issue that will most likely be handled if they ever do a revamp. If it was something as simple as a minor patch which i know it is only a few dozen lines of code it would have been done a long time ago but it wasnt, so they need to just come out and say that this is no longer an exploit but it is apart of the game now or say it will be handled with smuggler revamp which will never happen as well.


Please lighten up on this subject i still dont see how pupslicing negatively affects the gaming experience and if it does well then you should still lighten up, this is only a video game not RL.



PA: SOB
Valcyne
Erillion
Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:34 am
#71

Thanks to all who helped to have this exploit fixed !


Case closed.





Have fun


Novarider
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