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Thread: If a developer ever posted here . . .
and a trick question as well I think. 
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Loki_Ashaman wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Heya Folks,
I just wanted to let you know that I am trying to get you some answers but it takes time. I am leaving for vacation this weekend and have bookmarked this thread to remind me to follow up when I return on Monday the 8th.
/salute Tiggs/sends AlienEntity and 2 other Kettemoor SLs with squads to maintain 120m perimeter around Tiggs so she can enjoy her vacation without disturbances./grabs his own squad and sneaks into Tiggs office, erasing all her bookmarks that are not within the SL forum.
lol
Dellenty wrote:
DE Revamp!! you have to be joking,
Yes there was a supposed ‘revamp’ but . . . .
max level combat droids can now be made by almost any DE
- (This is a big problem for 2 year vet DE’s)
Droid health no longer regen’s this meant that you droid which is forced up from CL30 to CL80 when grouped get killed in 4 hits and then just lies on the floor in bits until you use droid repair kits on them. This should be the case for droid wounds not droid health makes them mostly useless in combat once your char passes CL30.
Weapon hindrance on droids!! It cant unequip or change the weapon so why is there any hindrance
No state recovery for droids (they get knocked down and that’s it till you store and call them).
Droid Armour all but disappears after first call.
R series droids no longer have the ranged attack this only compounds the no health regen as they have to enter into melee range.
Creature harvest droids get less of a bonus then players do in a group.
Structure maint modules now useless as the structure now deducts from you bank.
Item store limit on droids still only 10 when every thing else Houses/backpacks have had there limits increased.
Medic droids now give a very small bonus to field healing rather than being required to heal in the field.
Droid deeds still display numbers that mean nothing to our customers.
Well over half our droid types serve little or no function BBL with no mod slots in can only walk around being annoying.
Seeker droids don’t use charges when being used (supposed to be fixed in Pub21 . . . ).
Crafting droids do now work but with the new Pet AI system they wonder off half way though the craft and so give you an error on crafting.
Cant name Humanoid droids / Cant use numbers in droid names (R2-D2).
Droids that hover are slower than I can walk – Should be able to keep up with the slower speeders.
There's a lot more but this isn't the place
The current DE prof along with Smuggler, Ranger, Squad Leader & Entertainer now have very little use in the game
Personally, after CU, I rarely use my droids. *shrugs* And I have a DE/SW on Sunrunner. He's not Master, but I'm still trying to get the hang of crafting.
Considering that many tanker profs can get a default 250ish defense and +80 def specials easily, and more then a few can get +250 to +500 specials... yeah, +30 is a drop in the bucket.
Kharast wrote:
another example is the passive bonuses to defences. while any bonus helps to some extent, +30 no longer means what it did before the CU because of diminshing returns.
after thinking long and hard about my question, i've come up with this:
if the devs do not know what to do with us, presumably the reason why we have not had a revamp, why not adjust the mods and abilities to be more in line with state of the game after the CU while the full revamp is being forumated, coded, and tested?
while the abilities are not broken and are probably working as intended, the usefullness of them is in serious doubt due to changes and abilities to other professions and game aspects. Boost morale comes to mind. when the game was young, wounds were probably more of an issue. but now just strolling through a busy starport will get your wounds healed by a random benevolent jedi. another example is the passive bonuses to defences. while any bonus helps to some extent, +30 no longer means what it did before the CU because of diminshing returns.
That makes perfect sense. I can't remember who else posted the same thing here on this board, but it was for rework or scratch and try again. A lot like myself didn't want SL to start completely over, but some where against the modify our abilities until a patch could come out. Imo I think we should just modified as you said Kharast. But then again, I would also see that as a rework and in a way a revamp since I'm pretty happy about SL as it is. Though I'm not happy about the messed up things we have. But yeah, we have gotten some new stuff, but not nearly the amount that one would think SL's should have.
AlienEntity wrote:
Dellenty wrote:
DE Revamp!! you have to be joking,
Yes there was a supposed ‘revamp’ but . . . .
max level combat droids can now be made by almost any DE
- (This is a big problem for 2 year vet DE’s)
Droid health no longer regen’s this meant that you droid which is forced up from CL30 to CL80 when grouped get killed in 4 hits and then just lies on the floor in bits until you use droid repair kits on them. This should be the case for droid wounds not droid health makes them mostly useless in combat once your char passes CL30.
Weapon hindrance on droids!! It cant unequip or change the weapon so why is there any hindrance
No state recovery for droids (they get knocked down and that’s it till you store and call them).
Droid Armour all but disappears after first call.
R series droids no longer have the ranged attack this only compounds the no health regen as they have to enter into melee range.
Creature harvest droids get less of a bonus then players do in a group.
Structure maint modules now useless as the structure now deducts from you bank.
Item store limit on droids still only 10 when every thing else Houses/backpacks have had there limits increased.
Medic droids now give a very small bonus to field healing rather than being required to heal in the field.
Droid deeds still display numbers that mean nothing to our customers.
Well over half our droid types serve little or no function BBL with no mod slots in can only walk around being annoying.
Seeker droids don’t use charges when being used (supposed to be fixed in Pub21 . . . ).
Crafting droids do now work but with the new Pet AI system they wonder off half way though the craft and so give you an error on crafting.
Cant name Humanoid droids / Cant use numbers in droid names (R2-D2).
Droids that hover are slower than I can walk – Should be able to keep up with the slower speeders.
There's a lot more but this isn't the place
The current DE prof along with Smuggler, Ranger, Squad Leader & Entertainer now have very little use in the game
Add Brawler, Medic, Doctors, Commandos...
Personally, after CU, I rarely use my droids. *shrugs* And I have a DE/SW on Sunrunner. He's not Master, but I'm still trying to get the hang of crafting.
Never used a droid but for storage since CU and I was Master DE once upon a time (before the first revamp...)
Even I feel sad for all SL.
A great addon would be to let SL merge two normal sized groups in one. This way a SL will give playersa way to have bigger groups. Handy for RAIDS (PvP) and dungeons (DWB...)
Arnwald wrote:
Never used a droid but for storage since CU and I was Master DE once upon a time (before the first revamp...)
Even I feel sad for all SL.
A great addon would be to let SL merge two normal sized groups in one. This way a SL will give playersa way to have bigger groups. Handy for RAIDS (PvP) and dungeons (DWB...)
Message Edited by Loki_Ashaman on 07-29-2005 11:44 AM
Loki_Ashaman wrote:
Arnwald wrote:
Never used a droid but for storage since CU and I was Master DE once upon a time (before the first revamp...)Even I feel sad for all SL.
A great addon would be to let SL merge two normal sized groups in one. This way a SL will give players a way to have bigger groups. Handy for RAIDS (PvP) and dungeons (DWB...)
I was leading a full group of 8 last night, and a friend of one person wanted to join (who happened to be a much needed Master Doc), and half the group was estatic saying "Yeah, we've got a MSL leading, we can have up to 10 people in the group!" It was very painful to inform them that we can not lead any more people then non-SLs.edit for grammarMessage Edited by Loki_Ashaman on 07-29-2005 11:44 AM
Ackehece wrote:
MailekEOC wrote:
No matter what we can't increase the group size because of balancing issues. But then again we should be able to make "platoons".
Platoons for Pvp? this is a neat idea!
Squad Leader doesn't need a complete revamp, but reworking and additions to our skill trees.
What needs to be added:
Platoons aka Raiding parties
Group Waypoints
Like automatically display a waypoint for all group members? nice!
Sound with the /sys command
Perhaps a shuttle recall
Shuttle to nearest city/starport? Yay!
Possible radar jamming aka group cover ability
Radar Jamming... Jedi will be jealous
SL only crowd control skill - Cover Fire
Artillery strikes? if not then put those into the GCW
What needs to be modified:
Rally - Possibly make an improved version of this that someone has mentioned in this forum
Boost Morale - Get rid of the spreading wounds, its obsolete
Steady aim - Since we already have an accuracy buff, why not make steady aim a 15-20 buff increasing the chance for party members to land "critical hits" on targets. Make the SEA that a lot of us still have useful.
funny I was just suggesting this to a friend earlier today... a Critical hit chance buff for 1 shot is pretty uber make it around 20% so on average 2 players in a group get a critical when used. Would add a boost to overall damage that is worth while to have. Keep it on it's timer and it would not be debalancing.
Things to think about
SL Crit buff + crit slice for 15% + BH crit shot 30%? = huge chance that a crit will go off so might be unbalanced that way
Volley fire - Make the SEA useful, possibly making volleyfire increase accuracy and damage by 25%
Retreat - Add defensive modifiers with the burst run but also lower accuracy and/or damage.
Passives - Increase ranged/melee defense modifiers to 80 at Master SL. Change the SL only accuracy and speed mods to group ones.
Passive :
- new SL * passengers multiplayer vehicule with better terrain negociation
(speed a bit lower than AV-21, swoops... but better terrain negociation) - Let the SL add vehicule terrain negociation to all group members but less than if all the players are in the special multiplayer vehicule
(only vehicule terrain negociation as walking terrain negociation should go to rangers)
I miss the days when the SL forums were actually very flame-free. Please respond to the question asked, it makes things a lot easier for everyone. There isn't a single profession that is happy with what they have, so please don't be redundant and say how mad you are, without answering Sushi's question! I only got through 3 pages before I got tired of reading.
Since I don't want to waste another post off-subject, I would agree with a lot of people that did answer the question and ask why there is little communication. The Devs and Tiggs can only say so much on any subject, but at least say what you can. We need reassurance that this game is not heading in the wrong direction, and bad news always spreads faster than good news.
Ackehece wrote:
MailekEOC wrote:
No matter what we can't increase the group size because of balancing issues. But then again we should be able to make "platoons".
Squad Leader doesn't need a complete revamp, but reworking and additions to our skill trees.
What needs to be added:
Platoons aka Raiding parties
Group Waypoints
Sound with the /sys command
Perhaps a shuttle recall
Possible radar jamming aka group cover ability
SL only crowd control skill - Cover Fire
Artillery strikes? if not then put those into the GCW
What needs to be modified:
Rally - Possibly make an improved version of this that someone has mentioned in this forum
Boost Morale - Get rid of the spreading wounds, its obsolete
Steady aim - Since we already have an accuracy buff, why not make steady aim a 15-20 buff increasing the chance for party members to land "critical hits" on targets. Make the SEA that a lot of us still have useful.
funny I was just suggesting this to a friend earlier today... a Critical hit chance buff for 1 shot is pretty uber make it around 20% so on average 2 players in a group get a critical when used. Would add a boost to overall damage that is worth while to have. Keep it on it's timer and it would not be debalancing.
Things to think about
SL Crit buff + crit slice for 15% + BH crit shot 30%? = huge chance that a crit will go off so might be unbalanced that way
Volley fire - Make the SEA useful, possibly making volleyfire increase accuracy and damage by 25%
Retreat - Add defensive modifiers with the burst run but also lower accuracy and/or damage.
Passives - Increase ranged/melee defense modifiers to 80 at Master SL. Change the SL only accuracy and speed mods to group ones.
Thought about balancing issues too, there would be a way though to do it, even if it means just increasing the cooldown.