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Thread: Revamp Discussion: Contraband/Missions PART 2 (Solutions)
Redleg13 wrote:
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I really think it's more of a reminder; so that all the newer smugglers won't get there hopes up....
So basically we just give up hope and never be able to do any of this stuff. I have been a smuggler on naritus for around 2 years and have never wanted to be a drug pusher, which is all we are atm. Slicing used to be fun, gave us a thrill to see the kind of slice we could get. now it's just automaton slicing, there isn't any reason to slice for anything but speed anymore as the damage slice or the rest is just plain useless. only stat on a weapon that is applicable anymore is Modded DPS, the rest is just window dressing. To have called what SOE actually did to Smuggler a revamp is to say that the CU was a great idea and it is the best thing that ever happened to SWG.
OK Rant off. I Love being a smuggler, I like slicing and doing all the things I can do with being one. BUT I don't SMUGGLE!!!!! By the stance beling held by the powers that be, smugglers should be renamed to SCUMBAGS.
why do you continue to spreag your angst? its not fair to the new smugglers. so what its been 2 years...rangers are no different. at least we got some love with the cu ( sure slicing could have ended up better buthey.)
if all your going to do is sprad angst do us all a favor and STOP POSTING!!
the smuggler forums used to be great fun. then when ppl like Angus and saareek(sp?) left things went sour and all the still hanging ill feeling smugglers are only makeing the new blood feel dumb and stupid....oh wait much like the jedi forums. well /tiphat to those negative poster...you all just suck.
EDIT: maybe they have taken so long because they want to get something right for a change. ppl can redeem thierselves ya know. it IS possable. and im patient enough to wait for it. my alt is smuggler..my main has been smuggler and i love it. just waiting for the smuggling.....and ill wait longer. as long as it takes.
and to you new smugglers....dont let ppl llike gassy bring you down. hes just sour and has no fun or happyness left in him.....or at least it appears that way from how he posts these days
Message Edited by sas-quatch on 09-19-2005 12:04 PM
sas-quatch wrote:
to all of the negative posters LIKE GASSY!!!!
why do you continue to spreag your angst? its not fair to the new smugglers. so what its been 2 years...rangers are no different. at least we got some love with the cu ( sure slicing could have ended up better buthey.)
if all your going to do is sprad angst do us all a favor and STOP POSTING!!
the smuggler forums used to be great fun. then when ppl like Angus and saareek(sp?) left things went sour and all the still hanging ill feeling smugglers are only makeing the new blood feel dumb and stupid....oh wait much like the jedi forums. well /tiphat to those negative poster...you all just suck.
EDIT: maybe they have taken so long because they want to get something right for a change. ppl can redeem thierselves ya know. it IS possable. and im patient enough to wait for it. my alt is smuggler..my main has been smuggler and i love it. just waiting for the smuggling.....and ill wait longer. as long as it takes.
and to you new smugglers....dont let ppl llike gassy bring you down. hes just sour and has no fun or happyness left in him.....or at least it appears that way from how he posts these daysMessage Edited by sas-quatch on 09-19-2005 12:04 PM
I feel sorry for people like you. I hope you are ready to play another 2 years hoping and praying things will get better, because they won't. The CU still blows and this game is dead to me and alot of others that made it fun. That fun hasnt been there for a long time now and Smuggler just keeps on getting the shaft or half assed version of what they tried to impliment for the "revamp".
MathuCopon wrote:
sas-quatch wrote:
to all of the negative posters LIKE GASSY!!!!
why do you continue to spreag your angst? its not fair to the new smugglers. so what its been 2 years...rangers are no different. at least we got some love with the cu ( sure slicing could have ended up better buthey.)
if all your going to do is sprad angst do us all a favor and STOP POSTING!!
the smuggler forums used to be great fun. then when ppl like Angus and saareek(sp?) left things went sour and all the still hanging ill feeling smugglers are only makeing the new blood feel dumb and stupid....oh wait much like the jedi forums. well /tiphat to those negative poster...you all just suck.
EDIT: maybe they have taken so long because they want to get something right for a change. ppl can redeem thierselves ya know. it IS possable. and im patient enough to wait for it. my alt is smuggler..my main has been smuggler and i love it. just waiting for the smuggling.....and ill wait longer. as long as it takes.
and to you new smugglers....dont let ppl llike gassy bring you down. hes just sour and has no fun or happyness left in him.....or at least it appears that way from how he posts these daysMessage Edited by sas-quatch on 09-19-2005 12:04 PM
I feel sorry for people like you. I hope you are ready to play another 2 years hoping and praying things will get better, because they won't. The CU still blows and this game is dead to me and alot of others that made it fun. That fun hasnt been there for a long time now and Smuggler just keeps on getting the shaft or half assed version of what they tried to impliment for the "revamp".
Wow dude.....you feel sorry for me?
Ill have you know ive been here a LONG time. playing the game since is pretty much launched. ive seen EVERYTHING that has happened in the live game. all of it.
so pls. keep your condesending attitude to your self. and as far as "revamp" goes it was plainly stated there was no revamp....just tweaking over time. how we changed at the CU was whatever revamp we were getting...minus smuggling which untill now ppl have been just feeling left out,
everything is subject to change. yes we are cumstomers but we have no say in when they should do what. just my view. and i have paitence. i can wait.
Alright, first I want to say, I've been hearing nothing but good stuff from this spot. So pat yourselves on the back!
Now, Here's the thing fellas. Smugglers are dangerous people who find themselves under the gun constantly in the name of quick credits, and a hell of a lot of them. So quite frankly, and I say this having a smug/merchant combo giving me a weak combat rating of 55, I don't give a crap what the smugglers who don't want to deal with pvp want! Even though I thoroughly expect to get my ass handed to me, I indulge in the very idea of smug/bh battles. And I personally think it fits that a bh would be stronger than us. But we need to be allowed certain kinds of tactical advantages just so we can win 1 out of 3 battles.
I have always thought the true cure to this game would be setting up player bounties period. Not just jedi and smuggler. Think about, it'd be more realistic. Rich crafters would be feared because they could afford to place numerous bounties on someone. It would keep people in line. And less jedi would be around, simply, everyone and their mama would place a bounty on them for sheer hate. Bounties would double, costs of them would double, and people would show more respect to each other. And there would be asort of authority the rich would receive.
Now here's the thing I hate about the current system involving smugglers and bountyhunters: I have come to attain the opinions of various different players in the smuggler, bountyhunter trades and, we frankly think it's gay that you get mission from a terminal. Bountyhunters want to recieve their bounty missions from dens of criminals or high esteemed SWG npc's. And smuggler missions should be the same. Especially jabba's palace! Make that place a "den of thieves" area, possessing all kinds of "dirty" business in the place. Right now it's just a themepark. Well frankly my dear, I don't give a damn, about any theme park! I want jabba to speak and the protocal droid to translate, mutha!
How's about this, make spice better than food from a chef, but make them able to be used together to get twice the bonus. But spice should be better than food, considering there is more risk, more effort, and thus less product. If I'm going to work my ass off to get spice, then it should be better than what a chef does (putting the crap in a food factory and getting about five times the amount of my product, thus having more merchandise).
And hell yes! The best idea I've seen is the one where you can work for jabba, backstab him and work for someone else, thus placing a bounty on you.
I think we should also be able to smuggle people (real players). Like we can be hired by people who have a bounty on them, to get them to safety and protect them from a bountyhunter. Of course, by taking on this mission, you are now on the bountyhunters hit list as well and can be killed by him/her. Both now having a tef on each other.
Serious, combat rebalance F'd the smugglers. I love a lot of their moves, but we don't have a single powerful attack. Sure last ditch, but that kicks your ass just as bad. How about a smuggler move called Bamboozled. Kind of like feign death, but intead, you drop to the ground and look incapped, (it would be kinda like a combo of feign death and last ditch). Just like last ditch your health drops to almost zero along with action and mind, placing all the power of allof them into one single, truly last ditch move. The guy can't do any damage to you in the state.Once he getsreal close to you you leap up shootingall the boostof energy you've got. If it incaps them it says, "You've been hoodwinked!" Eh? Just an idea. But I would really like to see it go into effect.
Well, so far that's my two cents.
BioEngine wrote:
I miss GreenMarine
Why? The only thing he got us in 2 years was our current slicing system and a lot of false hope. Can anyone confirm that he actually willingly quit, or was it more like,
LA: Well you've had over a year, where are we with the Smuggler revamp?
SOE: Let me check with Green Marine, he's in charge of the revamp.
SOE: So I know we've had you on other things as well, but LA is asking about the Smuggler revamp so how soon can you have it completed?
GM: (Er, Uh.. maybe I shouldn't have screwed around for the last year) It's almost complete *cough*
SOE: I want something in QA by next week.
GM: (I'll just throw together a slicing system real quick to tide them over while I start on this revamp)
3weeks later
LA: The Smuggler's are out of control, where is that revamp!!
SOE: Green Marine says its complete, its undergoing QA and will be on the servers next week.
PUBLIC: **edit** IS THIS, OMG, WHERE R REVAMP? CRAP THIS SLICING SYSTEM! JUNK!
GM: Please bear with me PUBLIC, I have a Plan B!
LA: What the @#$* is this!? People are in an uproar; THIS the revamp we gave you over a year to complete!?!?
SOE: Don't worry, the axe will fall for this.
SOE: Sorry GM, we're going to have to make an example of you. Here, take this nice compensation package and sign here saying you 'Resigned' and all will be right with the world.
.. Misteriously GM has 'Quit'
Mmm... my own In-Concept, the Smuggler's have been Smuggled!
magneto2 wrote:
i cant wait, i hope all these changes happen soon!!!
