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Thread: HOTDOG looks at some Templates: BH/Comm/MCM/TKM/MP
Kells
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:47 am
#53
Commando for the style win! Anyone can kill, but can you do it with flair? Killing a guy with a pistolisok, but killing em with a rocket launcher shows panache!
Ishe
Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:49 am
#54
HOTDOG wrote:
Ishe wrote:
I think if you're going this one that it would be better to go Master Smuggler/Master Commando/TK 4040, since 0040 in Teras Kasi is where you get the unarmed weapon certs. However, I plan to go Master Smuggler/Master Commando/TK 0044, as I am not too concerned about the Meditation loss and 0044 will not only give me the weapon certs, but the unarmed damage, accuracy, and speedas well. With 0044, you get the same amount of natural armor as 4400 as well, but you don't get as much melee and ranged defence.
Yeah, I can see your point about getting that Blasterfist. I think I was goin' for the Damage...I have to look back to double check.
Ah, I see. However, if you were goin' for damage and meditation, it would be 4004. 0400 is defence. I know what you mean about The Beast template, it looks attractive too. From the pic that I saw on the Lightning beam weapon, it stated that it didn't work against mounts. Is that changed? It does look like a nice weapon. I'm itching to try out the Particle Beam Cannon myself.
HOTDOG
Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:16 am
#55
Ishe wrote:
Ah, I see. However, if you were goin' for damage and meditation, it would be 4004. 0400 is defence. I know what you mean about The Beast template, it looks attractive too. From the pic that I saw on the Lightning beam weapon, it stated that it didn't work against mounts. Is that changed? It does look like a nice weapon. I'm itching to try out the Particle Beam Cannon myself.
Ahhhh, You're right. I misread that.
It DOESN"T effect the mount. 
Unless you aim for it! 
And yeah, shooting a particle beam THROUGH someone and hitting someone else sounds like fun too!
Mentski
Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:47 am
#57
I'm going with Master Smuggler, Master Rifleman, Pistols 4004 - "Have boomstick, Will travel"
General Melee Accuracy +10 Unarmed +110 (120)
General Melee Speed +5 Unarmed +55 (60)
Melee Defense +130 Unarmed +40 (170)
Unarmed Damage +60
General Ranged Accuracy +165 Rifle +85 (250) Pistol +40 (205)
General Ranged Speed +55 Rifle +65 (120) Pistol +45 (100)
Ranged Defense +185 Rifle +30 (210) Pistol +30 (210)
No doubt I'll be spending most of my time with a rifle, but my pistol stats won't be too bad, either. The trees of pistoleer giving that added general ranged/pistol speed and a bit more on defense, as well as improved fan shot. It's good to have at least 1 cone attack available. I'm hoping with the smuggler mezzing ability and the rifles range noone will be getting close to me, but if they do I'll have improved firearm strike to klonk 'em on the head and try and make a break for it.
It gives me the option to be sneaky and do a little sniping, or go a bit more in your face,Also, as a wookiee, I get the assault bowcaster cert at master rifleman, which has the same stats as a T21 but with kinetic damage, letting me take advantage in the weaknesses of other recon wearers if needed.
(And finally, I'll finally get todo the "one in the sack, one in the head" combo... well, if they fix lowblow)
Am I crazy, or are there other people out there still intending to be smuggler/rifleman come CURB time?
Message Edited by Mentski on 04-19-2005 05:58 PM
lurdanta
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:06 am
#58
I've been looking into a template I call the Swashbuckler because I can blast away and slice and dice.
Master Smuggler/Master Swordsman/Pistoleer 0004 and 4 points for FS augmentation
General Melee Speed +25 (+37 with FS)
General Melee Accuracy +85 (+97 with FS)
General Ranged Accuracy +90 (+102 with FS)
General Ranged Speed +30 (+42 with FS)
Melee Def +180 (+ 200 with FS)
Pistol Accuracy +40
Pistol Defense +30
Pistol Speed +25
Ranged Defense +170 (+190 with FS)
2H Melee Accuracy +110
2H Melee Defense +50
2H Melee Speed +75
And you get both battle armor and recon mitigation.
Master Smuggler/Master Swordsman/Pistoleer 0004 and 4 points for FS augmentation
General Melee Speed +25 (+37 with FS)
General Melee Accuracy +85 (+97 with FS)
General Ranged Accuracy +90 (+102 with FS)
General Ranged Speed +30 (+42 with FS)
Melee Def +180 (+ 200 with FS)
Pistol Accuracy +40
Pistol Defense +30
Pistol Speed +25
Ranged Defense +170 (+190 with FS)
2H Melee Accuracy +110
2H Melee Defense +50
2H Melee Speed +75
And you get both battle armor and recon mitigation.
Message Edited by lurdanta on 04-19-2005 11:06 AM
DRWolfe
Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:12 pm
#59
SpinningCloud wrote:I've been flip-flopping on the whole thing. About all I know is I'm keeping Master Pistoleer and since I want to be about the best in pistols possible I'm thinking BH 0040 is the way to go. But still, the concept of taking part of the BH profession leaves a bad taste in my mouth seeing as how I'm expecting to be hunted by their ilk one of these days.
Ok, so I'm boring. Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / BH Pistols for me. Master Smuggler 'cause I'll always be a Master Smuggler, Master Pistoleer 'cause I like Pistols, BH Pistols 'cause it's Pistols and most importantly, I want the title (and the pre-req Terrain Negotiation is a bonus).
As for taking part of the BH profession when they'll be hunting me, I figure all that "know thy enemy" stuff makes some sense. Renn got the drop on one not long ago and rather than just blasting him right then and there, actually spoke to him and something like a friendship broke out, so the hunter started teaching Renn some tricks to round out his Pistol skills (he'll be done learning around CU time when I respec my TK line over to BH, which he already has the pre-reqs for).
Cloudchasing
Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:56 pm
#60
I've been seriously learning my planned post-CU template
Master SMuggler (Of Course)
TKM (can't give it up as much as I had planned to)
Commando 4000
Pistoleer 3000
This gives you the excellant TIA, which helps with your regen, cause the regen is bad enough as it is, plus I hate wearing armor. Second, the TK is just damn fun to play, however, I do best with my Renegade out.
Snare, and then just circle the target, sure, I'm only hitting for 450 or so each hit, but I'm taking no return fire. Once the snare goes away I kite until I can root them and hope I can outdamage them. However, Every time I dueled, I was close to no health at the end of it.
Almost lost several duels, but Last Ditch is SO AWESOME!!! I've hit guys in RIS for over 3k damage with it. Hard to lose when they have to repel that. Not real viable for long battles, but I have no worries about BH coming after us as long as I can get one of those off if it gets hairy in the fight.
Although, I am interested in how massive battles will be considering we regen health SO SLOWLY now. Clerics (oops, Doctors) are a necessity in groups now.
Now, just lower those damage modifiers and it will all be ok
HOTDOG
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:55 am
#63
Well,
I've been playing Master Smuggler/ Master Commando/Pistoleer 3000/ Tk 4000
and it's been cool.
But I think I might have to go for the Content King temp. Which is:
Master Smuggler/ Master Bounty Hunter/ Commando 0400 (actually any line of commando you like).
Why you ask?
- I felt the MS/MC/Pistoleer/TK template was lacking in a really damaging attack. I mean, last ditch is great...if you are dying.
- If the SP conversion is going to stay the way it is- I won't have to grind anything to make this temp. Where I would have to grind a line of an Elite to get the MS/MC/Pistoleer/TK temp.
- I thought about just taking one line of BH- but how can you do that and not hunt Jedi?
- BH will give me more pistol speed (and heavy weapon speed for that matter-ranged)
- BH will give me some MUCH needed terrain negotiation.
- I get to keep my bad as HELL Rebel Assault armor.
- I like that Desperado title too.
- CONTENT
So I'm gonna test that out and See what I think. However, I think I will miss meditate- although I have hardly used it- and I will DEFINITELY miss that Plasma Flame Thrower. Grenades didn't work out like I thought they would.
BUT I DO GET TO KEEP THAT LBC!! ![]()
Anyone have any luck with the MS/MBH combo?
rogue_eight
Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:58 am
#64
Anyone got any info on what you need to get the full 3K HAM? And another link to a character builder would be dandy too...
VegitoX
Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:22 am
#65
HOTDOG wrote:
Well,
I've been playing Master Smuggler/ Master Commando/Pistoleer 3000/ Tk 4000
and it's been cool.
But I think I might have to go for the Content King temp. Which is:
Master Smuggler/ Master Bounty Hunter/ Commando 0400 (actually any line of commando you like).
Why you ask?
- I felt the MS/MC/Pistoleer/TK template was lacking in a really damaging attack. I mean, last ditch is great...if you are dying.
- If the SP conversion is going to stay the way it is- I won't have to grind anything to make this temp. Where I would have to grind a line of an Elite to get the MS/MC/Pistoleer/TK temp.
- I thought about just taking one line of BH- but how can you do that and not hunt Jedi?
- BH will give me more pistol speed (and heavy weapon speed for that matter-ranged)
- BH will give me some MUCH needed terrain negotiation.
- I get to keep my bad as HELL Rebel Assault armor.
- I like that Desperado title too.
- CONTENT
So I'm gonna test that out and See what I think. However, I think I will miss meditate- although I have hardly used it- and I will DEFINITELY miss that Plasma Flame Thrower. Grenades didn't work out like I thought they would.
BUT I DO GET TO KEEP THAT LBC!!
Anyone have any luck with the MS/MBH combo?
A question for you, are you able to deal respectable damage? I dont require jaw dropping, soda spitting damage...just respectable