Smuggler Archive

Ok I've played both bh and smuggler and I've come to a conclusion. First off, smuggler IS a combat profession. Prerequistes are combat classes. One tree is dedicated to special fighting moves. Another tree is for faction, whoever says that's not for pvp doesn't know what they're talking about.

Ok for the debatable trees, let's examine them. Spices are used purely for combat. Eating spices for pve is something not many players do because of the downers, so its mostly a 'tool' used in pvp. Slicing is something smugglers use to improve weapons and armor, both combat equipment. If smugglers wanted to, they could just slice their own weapons/armor to give themselves an edge in pvp. Slicing for others is a business trade, NOT the whole point of the class. Think about it, you have to hand your equipment over to the smuggler in order to get it sliced.

Ok as for bounty hunters, the reason people are calling them 'overpowered' is because they have ham specific attacks, allowing them to kill 3 times faster than most other professions. Once bodyshot3, legshot3,headshot3attacks are fixed, this issue should be removed.

Also, bhs were meant for 1 on 1 pvp, everyone knows that. To have complete control in a faction war is not part of the game design. The ONLY attack I think in the bh's arsenal that is designed for faction battles is Lightning Cone, and I don't see anyone complaining about that.

/rant over

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SanTsu wrote:
Its so funny how BHs say we are weak but everyone knows they are over powered. And just becuase not all master bounty hunters talk to you lowca doesnt mean they arent there. I know 3 you havent named.

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Name them. I bet my bank account they are skill title hackers.

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Shin_Shodei wrote:
lol kill you with what? a CDEF? lol so your fire knockdown might suck also but in that 5 seconds you could eye shot me to death

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Well this obviously shows your intelligence to the game and further proves my point.

A CDEF carbine is used to shoot fire knockdowns. The HAM costs on this special are huge, and the CDEF can be sliced down to shoot at the 1 sec cap while also not using much HAM.

Once the knockdown has landed, and if you are not dead yet, then you switch to a laser carbine or a scatter pistol for damage.

lol thats cute, my intelligence about the game. i wana know y are you fighting trying to say that your class is gimped when you still pwn in pvp almost along side the commandos now. ok so lets see you switch over to the CDEF for the fire knockdown for the lower ham cost, well you have somthing now that can kill people in 1 hit.. if it lands but if your a master there is no reason it shouldn't or you could pull out your scatter pistol and eye shot me to death in .. hmm 5 hits.

and about the CDEF comment you should really learn to read i was talking about the Novice marksman you said could beat your A$$ not a bounty hunter using a CDEF heh don't mock me i was in beta i know alot more about this game then you think

well sorry, i was bored with teh game for about a month i have been a commando a architect a carbiner a teras kasi and a medic ,entertainer master marksman blaw blaw blaw blaw and the list goes on and now i'm a Smuggler/Ch probablly gona stay with this becouse i'm begining to enjoy playin again just becouse i'm low on skills and not a "Master" doesn't mean i don't know what i'm talking about heh

the LLC is great after the dizzy knockdown combo. Its hi damage added to the 50% increase in damage and the to hit modifiers to a downed oponent make it great as a follow up weapon.

the point is, you bounty hunters are still uber, and not as weak as your letting on. even with the nerfs you guys still pwn i have no clue y your trying to make it seem like your class is as gimped as ours. Ours being a class that can't even deside if we are a merchent or Combat profession, and our combat tree does totally Jack! it's like there is no reason for 2 of our tree's to be there and master smuggler is a joke it doesn't do a thing. it might help me out since i'm a zabrak and i got the 2x modifire on FP heh

Santsu is totally right and i support him

What do you guys expect? You get pistol 4 and unarmed 4 and you think you should be gods?

BH's have to get pistol 4, carbine 4, rifle 4, ranged support 4, master marksman, camping 4, trapping 4, survival 4, hunting 4, master scout.

We deserve the specials you get. If you spend your points wisely in a good backup class, Smuggler + Something else easily is comparable to bounty hunter since we don't have points to do anything else after.

The Dev's have to balance Bounty Hunter against any combonation of other combat classes. It takes us 217 to master. That 217 needs to be balanced.

Who would ever be a bounty hunter if you could spend 2 days mastering a profession, use about 90 skill points, and be tougher than spending months and 217 skill points?

You guys need to look at it from both angles. No one would be bounty hunters if our 217 points weren't worth it.

heh i don't remember bounty hunter being an advanced profession of pistoleer.. you can't use that arguement becouse your using the same skills we are into your profession

wait who said anything about gods?.. so since we want to be good in pvp your comparing it to your class? so you think your class is godly?

Your reverting to your old arguements again Lowca. We all know you think bounty hunters should be the most uber because you have master marksman. Wow I have master marksman too.

"What do you guys expect? You get pistol 4 and unarmed 4 and you think you should be gods?"

It always comes back to the pre-reqs. You want to base this on pre-reqs? Scout isn't a combat profession. BH is hybrid combat and scout. Quit calling yourself a pure combat profession. As far as pure combat pre-reqs go the Commando has BH beat hands down. Yet a BH will own a commando 90% of the time. How do you justify that?

You will next try to fall on "oh but i have to spend so many skillpoints" But thats' crap too. When anyone spends just as many skillpoints as a BH in all combat abilities and still cant compete then somethings wrong. Period.