Smuggler Archive
Thread: Joras' FF report
fishbrains wrote:
I don't think things might be as bad as they seem. I'm going to try and track down Dave White today and get some more specifics.
I fear for those guys with Joras and Veela on their tales this weekend.
GanymedePharuu wrote:
i see we're going back and forth on the issue of Concussion shot. so i figured i'd chime in cause i got somethin to say about it.
the way i see it. if they do fix Concussion shot, so that it becomes a true Mezz, i don't see that as being a big problem.
it will still be very useful in PvE and PvP. it will essentially turn your target into a statue for 30 seconds! that means no moving, no shooting, no healing!
in 1 vs 1 PvP, you can use that time for a number of things. you can slap a big heal on yourself (your enemy CAN'T heal). you could like someone said earlier, whip out a bomb droid and kaboom! you canchange weapons.verbally taunt your enemy so theyget all mad and lose focus. take a quick nap.grab something to eat. tell a passerby howhot your enemy's mom is.or you gan get the hell outta dodge.
in group PvP it's still useful! you can lay this bad boy statue-maker on one enemy after another taking each TOTALLY out of combat. so that your group will be able to pick off one enemy at a time.Mezz their Mezzers, then Mezz their Healers, and they're up sh!t's creek!
now. as for our other abilities. i agree, they need to be worked with severely. because fixing Concussion shot alonewill neither raise nor lower us from a 2 or 3 in crowd control.
- Slow Blow should become Low Blow again, and Joras i really suggest you demonstrate to a devwhy
in other words Low Blow should be a kickass move that should KD and slow our target's attack speed by a PERCENTAGE!
this -40 crap makes no sense. if someone's attack speed is 120 - 130(which most hardcore PvPers will be around) -40 only brings them down to 80 or 90. that's not much of a difference really.
Low Blow (in addition to a KD) should lower the target's attack speed by at least50%! maybe even by 66% so that they're shooting at 1/3 their normal rate.
- in addition to Concussion shot being a Mezz, i think we SHOULD get a Root shot as well. now it is a little unfair to be able toRoot someone for 30 - 40 seconds while you blast away onthem. soit should be on par with Stopping shot from Pistoleer in that it does NOT break on damage, but it has a short timer of about 15 seconds. i vote for Panic shot to become our Root.
- an AoE attack. Smuggler needs some sort of area attack to raise our Crowd Control number. i think that Panic shot could make a good candidate for an AoE Root attack, so that it's not redundant with Stopping shot from Pistoleer.
Message Edited by GanymedePharuu on 06-04-2005 07:03 AM
5 stars for joo.
Antonnio wrote:
HaughtyElf wrote:
What I find distrubing is the back-channel ways we are getting this information and not from you, Wes. Now, I'm not blaming you, I'm betting they just arn't telling you.
Or if its some NDA that won't allow you, but then why the heck can we get it from them at FF or E3 when someone asks them.
Why can't a DEV come talk to us, tell us the scoop. Even if its not to get ideas, but just to tell us, this is what they are doing and why.
Message Edited by HaughtyElf on 06-04-2005 02:39 PM
The dev who is in charge of the smuggler revamp is GreenMarine I believe, but I don't think anybody has heard anything from him in ages... he isn't even at FanFest according to this first post. I am really starting to become concerned about him, I wonder if he is really committed to our revamp, and if he is still on the job at all...
maybe he's SO committed and that's why he couldnt come to the FF
He could be sitting at his office computer right now programming exactly what our NPC mission givers are gonna say when we fail our deliveries because of a bug or client crash...
glad to hear that the slicing angle is coming along quickly.
Message Edited by nerfherder321 on 06-04-2005 04:24 PM
Message Edited by CapnKate on 06-04-2005 09:31 PM
most of us( if we have the time/energy) should get smuggler toons on the TC servers ASAFP.
the devs want/need feedback, lets give it to them in Economy size helpings.