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Thread: Joras' FF report

GanymedePharuu
Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:37 am
#40

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SmugglinZane
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:53 am
#41






fishbrains wrote:
I don't think things might be as bad as they seem. I'm going to try and track down Dave White today and get some more specifics.




I fear for those guys with Joras and Veela on their tales this weekend.



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HOTDOG
Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:54 am
#42






GanymedePharuu wrote:


i see we're going back and forth on the issue of Concussion shot. so i figured i'd chime in cause i got somethin to say about it.


the way i see it. if they do fix Concussion shot, so that it becomes a true Mezz, i don't see that as being a big problem.


it will still be very useful in PvE and PvP. it will essentially turn your target into a statue for 30 seconds! that means no moving, no shooting, no healing!


in 1 vs 1 PvP, you can use that time for a number of things. you can slap a big heal on yourself (your enemy CAN'T heal). you could like someone said earlier, whip out a bomb droid and kaboom! you canchange weapons.verbally taunt your enemy so theyget all mad and lose focus. take a quick nap.grab something to eat. tell a passerby howhot your enemy's mom is.or you gan get the hell outta dodge.


in group PvP it's still useful! you can lay this bad boy statue-maker on one enemy after another taking each TOTALLY out of combat. so that your group will be able to pick off one enemy at a time.Mezz their Mezzers, then Mezz their Healers, and they're up sh!t's creek!


now. as for our other abilities. i agree, they need to be worked with severely. because fixing Concussion shot alonewill neither raise nor lower us from a 2 or 3 in crowd control.


- Slow Blow should become Low Blow again, and Joras i really suggest you demonstrate to a devwhy

in other words Low Blow should be a kickass move that should KD and slow our target's attack speed by a PERCENTAGE!

this -40 crap makes no sense. if someone's attack speed is 120 - 130(which most hardcore PvPers will be around) -40 only brings them down to 80 or 90. that's not much of a difference really.

Low Blow (in addition to a KD) should lower the target's attack speed by at least50%! maybe even by 66% so that they're shooting at 1/3 their normal rate.


- in addition to Concussion shot being a Mezz, i think we SHOULD get a Root shot as well. now it is a little unfair to be able toRoot someone for 30 - 40 seconds while you blast away onthem. soit should be on par with Stopping shot from Pistoleer in that it does NOT break on damage, but it has a short timer of about 15 seconds. i vote for Panic shot to become our Root.


- an AoE attack. Smuggler needs some sort of area attack to raise our Crowd Control number. i think that Panic shot could make a good candidate for an AoE Root attack, so that it's not redundant with Stopping shot from Pistoleer.

Message Edited by GanymedePharuu on 06-04-2005 07:03 AM




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maxtheusher
Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:52 pm
#43



Antonnio wrote:


HaughtyElf wrote:

What I find distrubing is the back-channel ways we are getting this information and not from you, Wes. Now, I'm not blaming you, I'm betting they just arn't telling you.

Or if its some NDA that won't allow you, but then why the heck can we get it from them at FF or E3 when someone asks them.

Why can't a DEV come talk to us, tell us the scoop. Even if its not to get ideas, but just to tell us, this is what they are doing and why.

Message Edited by HaughtyElf on 06-04-2005 02:39 PM





The dev who is in charge of the smuggler revamp is GreenMarine I believe, but I don't think anybody has heard anything from him in ages... he isn't even at FanFest according to this first post. I am really starting to become concerned about him, I wonder if he is really committed to our revamp, and if he is still on the job at all...




maybe he's SO committed and that's why he couldnt come to the FF



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Antonnio
Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:07 pm
#44

LoL... could very well be.

He could be sitting at his office computer right now programming exactly what our NPC mission givers are gonna say when we fail our deliveries because of a bug or client crash...



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MISTagent01
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:18 pm
#45

Ok, here's some from me:


Slicing changes *should* go to TC this coming week.


GM is not here, but will be receiving a phone call from me this coming week.


I've noticed that it's really f**king creepy that, although the Corrs submit bugs and major issues over and over and over again, the devs sometimes have not ever HEARD of the issue. Obviously, there is a MAJOR communication breakdown between the community employees and the developers (no offense anyone.)


Julio Torres is really friggin cool.


Auraboron and I talked for a bit...his situation really sucks


Lots of vaguery in the Smuggler forum...mostly due to GM not being there (he writes most of the code for it.)



Overall, it really seems like the devs care about the direction that the game is going...however, there's this really odd situation where (again) it seems like a massive communication breakdown between the devs and the playerbase. I totally understand where the devs are coming from (that they don't have the time to read all the boards, program for the game, AND have an actual life outside of the SOE offices,) but it seems like the job of the community managers (TH and Tiggs) should be to better get that info to the proper people.



Anyway, that's my $.02 .... I'm with Fish in that I see some really potentially HUGE problems with the Smuggler Revamp. We're keeping posted. I do think that we should have a KD, and I will certainly bring that up with GM when I speak to him at the beginning of next week.



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Antonnio
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:20 pm
#46

good work MISTagent01...

glad to hear that the slicing angle is coming along quickly.



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MISTagent01
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:23 pm
#47

Yeah, slicing should be out in Pub. 18...almost guaranteed, barring any unexpected bugs.



V E E L A "her royal hawtness"
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge. I am Jack's Ignored Profession.
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people hawked their wares, danced, laughed, dueled, and had a rollicking good time. Cantinas packed with Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember...


That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.

Editor's Note: The author of the above post has quit giving SOE her money. She suggests you do the same, because this game will never be what you want it to be.


nerfherder321
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:23 pm
#48


fish, do me a favor, if you see any dev, slap them and say i sent you

Message Edited by nerfherder321 on 06-04-2005 04:24 PM




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GanymedePharuu
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:27 pm
#49

/tar Veela


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Kohs V'sto
I wanted Smuggling for Christmas
but all i got was
<--- this stupid hat.

I am Jack's ignored profession.
Luke Skywalker is DEAD!
CapnKate
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:30 pm
#50

Already got my TC Smuggler all ready to go for next week. Or, well, Noviced. I never really spent a lot of time working on it in the past, but at least i'll be in a position to test the thing.

Message Edited by CapnKate on 06-04-2005 09:31 PM



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Capt_Baobab
Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:09 pm
#51

good idea...

most of us( if we have the time/energy) should get smuggler toons on the TC servers ASAFP.

the devs want/need feedback, lets give it to them in Economy size helpings.



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WesBelden
Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:17 am
#52


Thanks for the update Joras, really appreciate it. I hope you and Veela (and everyone else who's there for that matter) are having a good time . Somewhat bummed out on some of the answers you got, so I think I'll go pester in the Corre forum...


Some of you might have noticed I've been a bit quiet lately, well, I had my portfolio in this Tuesday just gone (nearly died getting that in )and my last ever assignement in yesterday.... as such, I've now finished university... entirely. Somewhat daunting, if not wierd, but at least I cannow start concentrating on my work here.


There's a few cobwebs on the stickies and their content, so I'll start working on them this weekend (...along with pestering them why, despite they agree we're a 2-3 in CC, they're not doing anything about it *goes crosseyed*).



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