Smuggler Archive

in a straight duel or tourny, this is a chickensh... errr... crap way to play. if you are overt and someone else attacks you, or a group attacks you, this can be used in context and is perfectly legal (stop crying because you didn't get your 11 faction points).

FD works particularly well during raids (offensive) i've used it a few times after being poisoned. It gives your doc some additional time to take care of other people and to find you. As long as there are other people there then you dont' have to worry about getting blackbarred that much. I just think it shouldn't reaggro mobs in pve from insane distances, but then again I also think you shouldn't regen while feigned.

As for PvP, if we looked like a corpse and couldn't be targeted that opens the door for questionable tactics (not gonna use the E word). I'd hate to see a CM/smuggler run in dump his poison and feign, then regen rinse and repeat. Or in a base raid you could just run to the terminal feign and wait for the cavalry to have things in hand.

The most annoying thing about all of the Feign Death problems is the fact that the Code is there already to fix it!

If Feign worked EXACTLY like a NORMAL incap, the Combat Box would Go away, we would no longer be able to be targeted and appear dead.

It's not just broke in PVP it's PVE as well. If I feign while fighing a Rancor, I stand from the Feign, the combat box is still going, a Rancor Starts charging at me while I am still dusting off my clothes. and Now It takes longer to recover so I may as well just take the Incap, at least then the MOB leaves me alone!

/sarcasm on
/annoyance on
So, apparently if FD is not supposed to be a PvP move, wouldn't that imply that other professions' specials are "not PvP moves" as well? Here's a solution. Nerf EVERY SINGLE SPECIAL for PvP! Wouldn't that level the playing field a litle more? That way I don't have to worry about whether i'll get blackbarred if i FD, but hey, CH's can't dump poison on me either. And BH's can't eyeshot shot me into oblivion. What do you think there Taurin?
/sarcasm off
Honestly, if the end goal of this game is supposed to be the GCW, then all aspects of the game should be variations of PvP. Even crafting is PvP in nature (i.e. taking revenue for one party and denying it to the opposition). As such, to give a special and say it isn't PvP in nature is completely asinine.

*bump*

I'd like to see ThunderHeart reply to this...

Seriously, if even he says Feign Death isn't for PVP, then I'll quit fighting people in this game from that point on. I knew PVP was pointless in this game. What's been said like Taurin is the last nail in the coffin for PVP for me...

"(And don't tell me smuggler is not meant to be faction -- Han helped the rebs.)"

HAHAHA. Smuggler is the only proffession to have abilities that directly apply to PvP and faction. That's all that the Underwold tree is!

What does "not meant to be used in PvP" mean anyways? Did they assume that for some reason Smugglers wouldn't use a valuable skill, just because they're in PvP? I hate the lack of common sense here. Hmmm... Feign death... play dead... I think of two uses... make creatures stop attacking, make players stop attacking, in short, make enemies stop attacking. It's complete BS to say that it's not intended for PvP. Theres no such thing as "not for PvP!" Why not just give every proffession two skill sets: One for PvE and one for PvP. That makes so much sense! (yeah, that was sarcasm).

I can't believe how simply this issue could be addressed: Make Feigned Death person appear dead to all others

Yet they still can't find three seconds to fix it! There are other problems with it (re-aggroing enemies*, must be standing) and it's been modified before! And now that there is an actual exploitbeing used, they aren't doing anything,not even fixing the exploit. Do I have to walk to SOE headquarters and change the code myself?

[Not realted but Feign Death related: *Yeah, that's right, it doesn't work in PvE like it should either. Sure the feign death part works fine, but when you get up, they re aggro on you and are usually back at you before the standing animation even finishes. But wait, theres more! Not only do they aggro before the animation finishes, they aggro before it even starts! The creature is already in combat running at you as soon as you hit stand. Before there is any way for it to possibly know that you're alive. You hit stand: they aggo. the animation starts: they're on their way. The SLOW animation finishes: They're right beside you.]

You can't say it's not intended for PvP. Nothing isn't intended for PvP. This Taurin guy is totally full of crap. SOE, fire him right now, or buy him a brain. Whichever is cheaper. Probably the first.

FD in space, like letting the burning hulk that was your ship drift and pretending to have a reactor breach, sweet.

Thanks for the FD quote, now, does that imply its use in PvP.

While I agree that Taurin must have been smoking something if he did say this, making us look truly dead while in FD probably isnt that easy. Think about it, they'd have to code in an entirely new incapacitation mode, that LOOKS like death to everyone else but really isnt. Right now, incapped is incapped, dead is dead. That is asking for an entirely new player condition codestring. Perhaps to simplify it they could allow it so we actually 'commit suicide' and rez ourselves when the time comes. Mind you we wouldn't be able to rez ourselves if someone else killed us, but only when we feigned death.