Smuggler Archive

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NardNod wrote:

Simple Fix.

Make FD like FOW for TKA.

It will be on a one hour timer and has a small failure rate.

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Tonteth wrote:

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NardNod wrote:

Simple Fix.

Make FD like FOW for TKA.

It will be on a one hour timer and has a small failure rate.

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Same.

Why don't they just FIX Feign Death for petes sake? Seriously, it worked back in like the summer of 2003. We still got wounded while in Feign, but at least people couldn't pull us OUT of it.

Perhaps Taurin meant that it was meant for PvE, and not meant to be able to be used in PvP at all...and the other devs that said it needed fixing meant that it needed to be made unusable in PvP? That is the only logical explanation I can come up with to explain the conflicting statements of the devs. But I still have yet to come up with a logical explanation for the insulting way Taurin said it was not meant for PvP. I could just feel the love. BAH you Taurin. Bah you.

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PhoenixOrion wrote:

Well, it doesn't bode well for Smuggler and Feign Death in PVP.

Straight from Taurin when I asked about an exploit Carbineers and Rifleman can use to pull us out of Feign Death:

"Feign Death is not a PVP move. Never has been, never will be, sorry."

So yeah. I'm kinda disappointed and now I most DEFINITLY don't have ANY faith in the Developers fixing Smuggler's Dirty Fighting Combat tree ever.

Message Edited by PhoenixOrion on 05-18-2004 05:37 AM

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Poisoning and bleeding someone in fd to keep them in fd for hours even if they DO want to get up is not right. It is worse than pulling someone out of fd. That is called an exploit. It is called griefing. Hey Taurin, I thought griefing was against the rules and grounds for losing ones account. What changed?

You are an idiot, always have been, always will be.

*edit* -Took out an uneeded insult. Heh.

Message Edited by MobusDyrus on 05-19-2004 12:24 PM

ok.. this may seem like an obvious/stupid question but...

Aren't any moves usable in PvE inherrantly usable in PvP?

I'm sorry but saying "its not intended for pvp" translates to "it shouldn't be in the game" to me. Is my logic messed up here?

Wow, never even heard of this one.

This does suck.....

I would be hard pressed to use FD in a PvP situation. I don't think it's wrong, it's more a matter of those silly commandos or groups of 1337s blackbarring you.

It may work in a small battle where there are others around to keep them busy, but one on one, your body is apt to become an outlet for thefaction points they won't receive.

I used it today to suprise the crap out of a noob. I was afk in theed, overt reb. I was hoping that someone would come along and kill me so i could go covert (the smugglers easy way out). The person who started shooting me happened to be a no prof noob with a cdef carbine. By the time i noticed this, my health was too low to start fighting back, so i feigned, waited for him to realize he couldnt kill me, saw the peace symbol flash on his target window, hit FOW, /stand, and a vercupti. TKed the suprized blighter before he even realized what happened.

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NardNod wrote:

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sounds like someone resents the 'ole play dead.

if not, please explain how this is in any way a "fix", with regard to the concerns outlined in this thread, as opposed to yet another smuggler nerf? i'd really like to hear this. really, i would.

Message Edited by PhoenixOrion on 05-20-2004 07:47 PM

I have some questions:

Do other professions have "specials" that are NOT PVP moves, and that can only used in PVE? If not, then I am not buying this for a minute.

If Carbineers and Rifleman weren't able to "pull" us out of feign death in the past, why can they do so now? Sounds like a BUG/EXPLOIT to me.

Spices suffered near-death due to the Chef revamp. Shortly after that, they were quite efficiently killed off with the unannounced major change to the downer, which to this day, months later, remains unacknowledged in any way by SOE (is it a BUG? Is it a NERF and "as intended?") -- except to our correspondent, who does not have permission to tell us the answer. What the hell is up with that? What is the big secret?

We have created tens of well-written documents with ideas for the revamp (which has been promised since the week of release of this game), and submitted and resubmitted them at SOE's request, only to be presented with a revamp that had little to do with our suggestions. The revamp was then postponed and we were asked to follow an outline provided by SOE, because our documents were too lengthy (they had to know that months ago when our documents were first submitted)...

And now... Feign Death is suddenly "never meant to be a PVP move." We only have four specials, two of which (panic shot and feign death) were both nerfed (and I hear that one of the other two was nerfed before my time). How are we supposed to defend ourselves if we are tef'd? (And don't tell me smuggler is not meant to be faction -- Han helped the rebs.)

I dunno guys, maybe I'm just cranky today. But man...

OK, I'll stop whining now.

Lylak Moon