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Thread: Test center patch update concerning Feign Death

riotcontrol
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:08 pm
#40
KaiRan wrote:
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Not even the CURB has an idea where FD is going.

That frightens me more than *anything* else going on in the game.
Wouldnt that mean that they are still creating content without thinking globally? How can you test CURB w/o all fighting specials in place?! The result would be as flawed as the original!
*grumble*




Did they ever stop? Look at the vendor change that was pulled back to revamp it after the realization of what it would do to the economy. Look at most of the patch changes nowadays, all just giving stuff away without much thought of the global impact. I'm as frightened of the CURB as I'm looking forward to it.



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NickHeel
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:08 pm
#41




NasherUK wrote:

If they gave smugglers some terrain negotation and burst run efficiencyI think that would be enough.



Yeah....how about a "no" on that. Considering any other elite/hybrid profession can pick up the Exploration lines, it really doesn't do us any good.


I think we're talking more along the lines of a unique Smuggler skill or bonus to combat. If I wanted to run faster and longer, I'd just pick up Exploration like any one else. And "burst run effeciency" and "terrain negotiation" doesn't coincide with "Dirty Fighting" very well.






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Ternque01
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:09 pm
#42




MISTagent01 wrote:

Well, no one ever cares when I say this (as I've said it a million times...)


But FD was never intended to be a PvP move. At Fan Fest, one of the panel members in the Hybrid Forum made that perfectly clear.



If this changes and makes it totally useless in PvP, I'd spin around and dance a jig. Expel me from the circle of trust if you will.






Double goes for me. Cast me to the side for believing this. Do it.


It was a poor move for PvP and it was messing up alot of other intended game designs in a HUGE way.


Well put Veela.




Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Alprazolam
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:14 pm
#43




Sengis wrote:




NickHeel wrote:

My Master Smuggler sense is tingling...I feel yet another swift kick to the nads coming my way I hope I'm so wrong though.





ditto An the devs silence on this matter is also worrying.



Agree.


Devs silence is usually associated with stealth nerfs!


I'll continue to hope for the best though....FD looking like a real incap, getting rid of the griefing aka blackbaring, and keeping lame ass jedi's from exploiting, et cetera..




yimaz
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:16 pm
#44




NickHeel wrote:




NasherUK wrote:

If they gave smugglers some terrain negotation and burst run efficiencyI think that would be enough.




Yeah....how about a "no" on that.




QFE



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

NickHeel
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:24 pm
#45

This is stressin' me out like none other. I'm going to get a shower andgo out my girlfriend to grab some Chinese food for dinner. Pepper steak > another Smuggler nerf.


Yimaz, Dreven, JTG, Geevo, Fishy, Wes, Caylin....I trust in yall and I'll bring you backsome little white boxes with good food stuffs in 'em. It'll get sorted out or...well...we'll just get nerfed again without compensation and that'll be that.


*Would have said Ternque but he likes the change. No sweet and sour chicken fro you

Message Edited by NickHeel on 02-18-2005 03:29 PM




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JTGAlpha
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:30 pm
#46
lol. Drat Wes and his European time zone.



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SpaceCrazy
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:31 pm
#47
Before we get the pitchforks and form the lynch mob to hang the devs for nerfing another Smuggler skill, let's get some people on TC-Gorath (when it's up) and test it out. One way of reading it could be that if you FD then you appear incapped, so you don't get black barred. Of course, it certainly can also be read that FD=Incap->DB too.

Let's get some testing done to see what this change actually does....then we can get the lynch mob together.



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Cancelled 7/27/05 - I joined to play Star Wars, not Jedi-BH Wars. You've ignored/gutted/abused just about every other profession in the game, while spending most of your time working on Jedi and BH as they related to Jedi. You've basically killed the game for anyone who doesn't want the glowstick. Congratulations.
NickHeel
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:31 pm
#48
Oh, since Tiggs felt it neccessary to drop 7 posts (currently) into the Ranger forum explaining their change since it wasn't worded well either, I DROPPED A NOTE for us.


Hopefully, it'll get her attention and she can explain something to us unless this is like the Spice nerf




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Independent Smuggler N Pilot of the Famous Sonik Rogue N Forever, The Most Legendary and Greatest Smuggler on Tarquinas
DobePincher
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:35 pm
#49
/sarcasim on

Can we get rid of the ability to use a pistol and vibroknucklers too?

/sarcasim off

It's bad enough that the lowered the incap time so that if you FD in the middle of a lair and don't have time to hit the heal button, you just get incapped again and again and then wake up in the cloner. Let's make so if we get in over our heads we don't stand a chance. Let's take out /burst too.



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I think someone should have had the decency to tell me the luncheon was free. To make someone run out with eopie pie in his hand, pretending he's throwing up, is not what I call hospitality.


JTGAlpha
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:35 pm
#50
Now Nick, the Rangers have gotten next to no attention for a loooong time. Do not begrudge them, as they are having a similiar fight with the dev's that we are, and are not near as far a long.



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Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
Taking Scum and Villainy to a new Level to Serve YOU.
Remember: SCUM does it dirty
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Shrendyc
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:36 pm
#51
Whoa, guys - we don't know the reality yet, lets just calm down until we get some word.


Be patient. Like the Jedi - oh wait....



"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. "
riotcontrol
Fri Feb 18, 2005 2:39 pm
#52
JTGAlpha wrote:
Now Nick, the Rangers have gotten next to no attention for a loooong time. Do not begrudge them, as they are having a similiar fight with the dev's that we are, and are not near as far a long.




And they have, sadly, gotten the wrong kind of attention with this patch... Just look at how the harvesting bonus is gained and distributed. First it was a bonus for everyone grouped, regardless of being a Ranger or not, which was silly, and now it's a bonus for everyone grouped except the Ranger, which is even sillier.



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