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Thread: Our next question for 19 Answers (June 16 est.)

DRWolfe
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:05 am
#40


yimaz wrote:



"Two months ago we had a spice downer change, why exactly did that happen. Also what, if any other incremental changes can we expect between now and the full Smuggler Revamp - (aka: spices, text fixes, slicing changes, etc.)? TH did in fact say skill documontation was reasonable for publish 11. Lastly can you please give us any indication as to how Hutt Faction will affect smugglers.

now?? Closer??



Yeah, but getting slimmer each repetition.

By the way, do you think we can get away with actually asking 3 questions in our 1 question, or do you think they may take the part they want to answer as the focus of said answer and ignore or skim over the rest?



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yimaz
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:12 am
#41






DRWolfe wrote:
Yeah, but getting slimmer each repetition.

By the way, do you think we can get away with actually asking 3 questions in our 1 question, or do you think they may take the part they want to answer as the focus of said answer and ignore or skim over the rest?



Ive seen other professions ask more then one question and I think 2 of the 3 tie into each other. I say go for it. We might get a good answer for one at least one, at this point what do we have to lose.




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NickHeel
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:28 am
#42






yimaz wrote:





DRWolfe wrote:
Yeah, but getting slimmer each repetition.

By the way, do you think we can get away with actually asking 3 questions in our 1 question, or do you think they may take the part they want to answer as the focus of said answer and ignore or skim over the rest?



Ive seen other professions ask more then one question and I think 2 of the 3 tie into each other. I say go for it. We might get a good answer for one at least one, at this point what do we have to lose.






Indeed. I say go for it and let the Devs sort it out. If they are abou non BSing us any more and not stringing us along, these are answers we need to have answered ASAP. This stuff should have been known months or weeks ago at the latest.


I think we've found our question.






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yimaz
Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:07 pm
#43

/bow with great respect

ty guys.



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yimaz
Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:12 pm
#44




Two months ago thespice downer change, why exactly did that happen? Also what, if any otherincremental changes can we expect between now andour Smuggler Revamp, (i.e- communication with Green Marine, text fixes,spices, slicing changes, combat balace,etc.)? While we understand our re-vamp is on hold until after JTL, TH did in fact say skill documontation wasreasonable for publish 11 and the community would not mind (if possible) the addition the 2 spices discussed by the dev team in the past. We understand and respect thatthe dev team is working hard but a mini-publish to holdThe Smuggler Communityover (again if possibel) until we are re-vamped would be great!




To much or just right??




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FrankLee
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:19 pm
#45

I'd put the questions at the end, and leave the backgrounding up front. The mini-publish sentence is redundant after 'incremental changes', and they'll feel better if they get to suggest a catchphrase like mini-publish themselves.
Otherwise it does indeed look solid. If I had to narrow the scope, I'd drop the spice downer question, but I think it's good in there... I mean you know what they'll say is: looking into the spice downer, and: we're way too busy with other (read: more important) stuff to give you a mini-publish.


We understand our re-vamp is on hold until after the JTL, but TH did in fact say skill documontation was reasonable for publish 11 and the community would not mind (if possible) the addition the 2 spices discussed by the dev team in the past. Two months ago there was a spice downer change, why exactly did that happen? Also what, if any other incremental changes can we expect between now and our Smuggler Revamp, (i.e- communication with Green Marine, text fixes, spices, slicing changes, combat balace, etc.)?



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Orcajum
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:51 pm
#46


yimaz wrote:

Two months ago the spice downer change, why exactly did that happen? Also what, if any other incremental changes can we expect between now and our Smuggler Revamp, (i.e- communication with Green Marine, text fixes, spices, slicing changes, combat balace, etc.)? While we understand our re-vamp is on hold until after JTL, TH did in fact say skill documontation was reasonable for publish 11 and the community would not mind (if possible) the addition the 2 spices discussed by the dev team in the past. We understand and respect that the dev team is working hard but a mini-publish to hold The Smuggler Community over (again if possibel) until we are re-vamped would be great!

To much or just right??






If we really wanted to screw with them we should try to be almost overly polite and appologetic. Catch them off guard if we started like:

"The smuggler community would like to take this opportunity to appologize for some of the remarks made in the forum during our moment of anger. We hope to move past these past transgressions and begin a new chapter of cooperation and communication with the development team.
In this vein of cooperation and communication, the smuggler community respectfully ask.....

I know this could appear to be brown-nosing, but i think we all know there's just a hint of sarcasm there, but not enough to be antagonistic. Also, how can they refuse to answer something when we straight out mention this wonderful "communication" we keep getting promised?

What do ya think?



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Broken_Smuggler
Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:03 pm
#47






Orcajum wrote:




yimaz wrote:




Two months ago the spice downer change, why exactly did that happen? Also what, if any other incremental changes can we expect between now and our Smuggler Revamp, (i.e- communication with Green Marine, text fixes, spices, slicing changes, combat balace, etc.)? While we understand our re-vamp is on hold until after JTL, TH did in fact say skill documontation was reasonable for publish 11 and the community would not mind (if possible) the addition the 2 spices discussed by the dev team in the past. We understand and respect that the dev team is working hard but a mini-publish to hold The Smuggler Community over (again if possibel) until we are re-vamped would be great!




To much or just right??








If we really wanted to screw with them we should try to be almost overly polite and appologetic. Catch them off guard if we started like:

"The smuggler community would like to take this opportunity to appologize for some of the remarks made in the forum during our moment of anger. We hope to move past these past transgressions and begin a new chapter of cooperation and communication with the development team.
In this vein of cooperation and communication, the smuggler community respectfully ask.....

I know this could appear to be brown-nosing, but i think we all know there's just a hint of sarcasm there, but not enough to be antagonistic. Also, how can they refuse to answer something when we straight out mention this wonderful "communication" we keep getting promised?

What do ya think?






lol


That would be funny, but Im not quite sure if they would get it or not. They might misinterpret it and think that we are just fine with being screwed over again and not do anything for us for another year. I'd be very cautious about playing nice...I think we are in a position where if we show our anger they might respond to it. Hell...the only time we seem to get communication here is when we act irrate. Something to think about...




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Broken_Smuggler
Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:09 pm
#48

How about this:




We understand our revamp has been pushed back again until afterJTL, but we would like to know whether it is possible to tide us over with a few fixes?The communitygenerally agrees that thetwo spices proposed by the developers would be a good start. Also concerning spices, two months ago there was a spice downer nerf, why exactly did that happen? Additionally, what other incremental changes can we expect between now and our Smuggler Revamp, (i.e- communication with Green Marine,skill tree documentation,slicing changes, combat balace, etc.)?








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FrankLee
Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:13 pm
#49

Reads better, caught the typo, and has more bitterness.

I like it.



FrankLee
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Broken_Smuggler
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:00 am
#50






yimaz wrote:






"Two months ago we had a spice downer change, why exactly did that happen. Also what, if any otherincremental changes can we expect between now and the full Smuggler Revamp - (aka: spices, text fixes, slicing changes, etc.)? TH did in fact say skill documontation wasreasonable for publish 11.Lastly can you please give us any indication as to how Hutt Faction willaffect smugglers.



now?? Closer??






I like that yimaz. At first I didnt think that the spice question could be tied to the fixes question, but this seems to do a pretty good job of making the link. I dont see the link to the Hutt question however. And while I think we could get away asking it, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice in doing so. Mainly because, Im guessing that TH will pick which question he wants to answer and ignore the other issues. I think we would all like to see some answers to these first two points, and I would hate for TH to skim over them. The Hutt expansion wont happen for a long, long time (much farther away then our revamp), so I think we have plenty of time to ask this question in the future. I dont think they will even have an answer for it now - and if they did, it would be purely theoretical (which does us no good).


Also, and this is just me being nitpicky , but I think I would mention dirty figthing over slicing in the list of fixes. The reasoning for this is simple, if they arent planning any fixes, then perhaps this question can implant the idea in there head. Given that, I consider dirty fighitnng (panic shot and feign death) to be in need of more help than slicing. Slicing, for the most part. works. We probably cant get a new slicing interface or system until the revamp, so I dont think it does us too much good to ask for more here. Like I said, just me being nitpicky, but thats my two cents. Other than that, I think this is a good question though.




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DRWolfe
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:29 am
#51


Broken_Smuggler wrote:

I like that yimaz. At first I didnt think that the spice question could be tied to the fixes question, but this seems to do a pretty good job of making the link. I dont see the link to the Hutt question however. And while I think we could get away asking it, I think we would be doing ourselves a disservice in doing so. Mainly because, Im guessing that TH will pick which question he wants to answer and ignore the other issues. I think we would all like to see some answers to these first two points, and I would hate for TH to skim over them. The Hutt expansion wont happen for a long, long time (much farther away then our revamp), so I think we have plenty of time to ask this question in the future. I dont think they will even have an answer for it now - and if they did, it would be purely theoretical (which does us no good).




I have to agree with this as well. They mentioned another faction going in, but it's only a mention and a good ways off. The first part of the question links together pretty well and addresses things they may actually have an answer for (we know they have an answer for one of them).

I just have a feeling that without a specific stand-alone "What happened to our spice and why?" question, we're bound to get something along the lines of "We're too busy with the Jedi, combat rebalance, and JTL to work on any little changes before the Smuggler revamp." and the spice question will just be ignored again or somehow included in the "wait for the revamp" statement, since we're giving them that out by including something in the question that they can point to the revamp with.



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HOTDOG
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:33 am
#52

Gotta say I agree with Broken_Smuggler (hey, isn't that all of us)- The Hutt question is pushing it-

In fact, if I had my druthers I would get rid of the punctuation and add an "and" instead of "also" because then it would truly be (1) question:

"Two months ago we had a spice downer change, why exactly did that happen and what, if any, otherincremental changes can we expect between now and the full Smuggler Revamp - (aka: spices, text fixes, slicing changes, etc.)?
We ask becauseTH did say skill documentation wasreasonable for publish 11."




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