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Bossov

Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:41 pm

#40

Yeah, Bossov is my in-game name.

Bossov Sla've

The Blonde Bomber

hananoken

Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:22 pm

#41

Could give discount bulk prices to any weaponsmith and armorsmith that would agree not to sell upgrade kits on a vendor, and agree to only sell them to cartel members. And stop selling clamps on vendors. Cut off the access that the hologrinders have to the tools of the trade. Or just buy up all the clamps and upgrade kits we can find and hoard them/sell them to each other.

And for God's sake don't sell tool schematics.

Yeah , add my name to the list, although i see some pretty fundamental disagreements that will break any attempt at a cartel. The biggest one being that the whole body can't even agree to not give away low % slices, hehe.

Colonel Sebca En'wil
Master Bioengineer
Master Smuggler
Imperial Planetologist, Flurry
Exploiting the Galactic Ecosystem since 2003

rexan

Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:36 pm

#42

Pharfignewton wrote:

First off, I feel the hologrinding smugglers out there on all the servers are the biggest cause of problems in our line of work. These players who have mastered half a dozen classes prior to smuggler and only want to master the class as quick as possible so they can move on are truly bringing down our noble but occasionally immoral line of work. They are the ones who can slice for as low as 25 creds per % (yes, i've had to face spammers who have actually offered that price) with freer slices under 20%. I'm just a smuggler/scout trying to earn some cash and advance my trees and I have to compete with those prices! I've only got 12 grand to my name, yet these other players with hundreds of thousands of credits steal business away from me! It's quite frustrating!

But I think a concerted effort to raise the generally accepted price on slicing at the master level can work. Most players will only get sliced from a master smugglers. Sure some people might not be happy with paying 10k per slice, but that is only because they are spoiled from the cheap slices of 1500 to 3500 of the past. And once other master smugglers realize they can get away with charging 10k per slice they will.

I see doctors selling their Master level Buffs for 6k-12k per set. These are great, but only last 2.5 hours. Why shouldn't we be charging similar prices for modifying weapons, which give a permanent benefit that lasts the life of the weapon (sometimes months).

Hologrinders are not really a major problem. Most of them will just grab crates of survival knives and go quietly about their business. They will be gone before you know it. They will only spend enough time as a master smuggler to slice their next set of weapons for their next holo profession.

I feel for you as a Non-Master smuggler. It is tough going.

Rexan Ryu
Master Smuggler
Flurry Server

Nash_Bloodmoon

Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:17 pm

#43

Please add me to the cartel - Character name is Lovi - Master Smuggler/Master TKA/Master Pistoleer

Jandel-Har

Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:03 pm

#44

One arguement I hear often is that someone new or someone who dosent have alot of money can't afford 10k a slice.My answer to them is , go to a novice or a slicer. People with high end gear should go to masters, and people with low to mid- grade gear should go to novices or slicers. I will give a for instance. I have another guy going on another server, going bounty hunter, and he can't afford 2k per item let alone 10k. So what do I do with him? He has no sliced stuff at all. Thats just the way it is.

If you want your pinto customized by West Coast Customs , it's still going to cost you.

This would be a good place for player bounties.If we all agreed to a set of "rules" to follow and someone decided to step out and try undercutting we could just put a bounty on him. Sure it wouldn't last forever but it would still be cool.

Message Edited by Jandel-Har on 04-09-2004 08:08 AM

Just Dak - Flurry

DigiDante

Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:24 pm

#45

Thank you guys for the positive feedback! I'm so glad this threads taken off well. I knew this change had to happen, and I knew it would eventually, we just need to get the ball rolling.

I'm still adding names to your list, if I've missed you feel free to email me or reply to this post.

Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.

Snowdude

Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:50 pm

#46

Guillermo Veda Master Smuggler. Im raising my prices to 250c per percent as we speak. Send me a tell ingame if you would like me to change my rates.

Deadtech

Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:07 am

#47

I do like the sliding scale idea. Those sound like fair prices. As far as the newbie thing goes. we all know that you only use that cdef for a whole of 2 hours tops. So I'm not worried about that. Let the newbie have a newbie weapon and once they start pulling in higher paying missions then they will be able to afford a good slice.

Here's my vote for 10-19% = 5k, 20-29% = 10k, and 30% and up 15k.

I'm starting now and sticking to it till we can have something 100% concrete for an solution.

Bossov

Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:56 am

#48

Logged on a bit ago to go check a vendor and immediatly got a tell wanting weapons sliced. My first thought was that someone had passed my name around, but I checked and the old master title had popped up for some reason. So I told the customer, 5k per weapon. She happily agreed. Only thing was I got 16% and 27% speed slices hehe. But she paid and didn't give me no lip, so my first experience with new prices was a pleasant one! Thinking of trying 10k per slice soon....

Bossov Sla've

The Blonde Bomber

Jandel-Har

Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:48 am

#49

If anyone is really interested in getting together ingame to discuss these issues, I would like to get a list of what time zone you are all in so we can try to make it convienent for as many people as possible to attend. (All except for you LordBratt, I know where you live

)PM me if you want.

Message Edited by Jandel-Har on 04-09-2004 07:49 AM

Just Dak - Flurry

Deadtech

Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:16 am

#50

Well I sit in the central zone in good 'ol chicago. Most night between 7-10 c are good for me. And weekend nights 8p-3a are good as well.

Message Edited by Deadtech on 04-09-2004 09:17 AM

Jarkatoo

Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:50 am

#51

ill be on tonight at least between 6-10 cst time, southern illinois here.

nnJarkatoo Karkanan nn Elder Jedi Noob Againnn

nnJark T'oo nn still hoping to smuggle somethingnn

nn "Zyylee Wookiee Extraordinare - >nn<

Balkstar

Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:59 pm

#52

DigiDante wrote:
Thank you all for posting and putting your thoughts into this post so far. I wouldn't mind meeting with everyone in game sometime, but we'll have to set a date way in advance.

We could discuss prices of spice, clamps, lasers, WUK's, AUK's ( for the ones of us that manufacture to sell ) and so forth. I personally am sick of crates of spice for 3k, but hell what can we do when our spices aren't worth to much to people...

Now onto listing Smugglers. I have compiled this list from what I have gathered in this post, I know the list will grow and grow, I'll try to keep it updated. If any of you know smugglers who aren't grinding, send me an email or post here and I'll add them to the list.

Flurry Smugglers

Selusa Secundus
Timothy Karrde
Jarkatooo Karkanan
Dak Roberts
Hoss
Zhose U'nare
Deadtech
Bossov ( In game name? )
Ginjiro Glades
Andreas Kallesoee
Cressida
Ciretos
Cardinal
Si' Dorden
Walter Moonrider
Kazavana
Fynn Jaren
Av'e Bratt
Rexan Ryu
Aurorem Farseer
Lovi
Guillermo Veda

Long live the Smugglers.

These names are to be contacted in the near future to possibly set up a meeting for us all to chat.

Message Edited by DigiDante on 04-08-2004 09:21 PM

Message Edited by DigiDante on 04-08-2004 11:05 PM

Master Smuggler here since November. I'm probably the smuggler everyone here loved to hate due to my very cheap prices. I price for the masses, but If everyone believes I am ruining the Smugler econnmy, I'll move to 5k a slice average. I still belive thatprices should be linked to the quality of theslice, and with that in mind, I would love the quality of the slice tied to the quality of the tools, but that is for a later discussion.

I'll be ingame around 1730PDT tonight till who-knows-when. I'd love to get a big chat going with the whole gang of you. I will be running an event for my guild most of the night,I expect, though.

Message Edited by Balkstar on 04-09-2004 03:00 PM

Balkstar Bartoc - 56th level Smuggler, Ex-Master Smuggler, Ex-Master Merchant, Privateer Ace Pilot,

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