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Thread: The Hunt: Whats your opinion?

Obo-hi
Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:05 am
#40









Playlist wrote:


1) Jedi are hunted in this time frame according to the way the were implimented and thats how it was set up. The amount of posts spouting righteous and fanatical stories of the lengths BH would go to in order to cause maximum loss to jedi, and jedi to BH scare me. How can we say 'ok we do these things to jedi but I promise we won't do it to smugglers cos they are ok'. Not all BH are like this I know, I have friends you like to roleplay their Bh with a strict 'code' that gives them enormous pleasure win (the best outcome obviously) or loose and its never a case of the leet talk and hate tells, but it happens with such regularity that I am appalled.




1) The sad truth about this, and any other online game, is that you will never see the end small minded and cruel players. The best that you can do is search for a method of keeping grief and exploiting at a minimum. I honestly feel that there is a cardinal respect between our two professions, and I strongly doubt that a significant grief factor would arise. The fact is that most of the Jedi in this game think that they are playing Jedi Knight, or KOTOR, or more specifically the players who are Jedi should be playing one of those games, and not SWG.This pathetic Blood and Spit war that has evolved between us is a product of many many poorly developed game mechanics. The first and foremost being the simplicity in obtaining a Jedi character. To begin with, the majority of the BH community could care less about Jedi, they were an occasional treat to hunt. This is where the problems began. Too many Jedi felt that they should have more of an ability to 'own' a BH; this is when the nerfing began. First our specials, then our defenses, nerf after nerf. We accepted them, and we kept playing, only to find that despite of our significant handicap, our only player content felt the need to exploit the game mechanics and render themselves invisible to our droids. All the while the developer team simply ignored us. As time went on, the Jedi became more and more powerful and consistantly grew in numbers, while the dev's turned a blind eye to us. Our numbers dwindled, and in turn, so did our spirit.


I do not condone the act of griefing any player under any circumstances, but I can understand the frustration of the BH community. A frustration which, when encountered by a certain, simple minded and cruel calibur of player, mutated into a pitiful and hideous griefing monster. Although the war between our ranks is terrible, it's not quite as bad as one might think because, like any news source, you only hear about the bad. For the large part, the conflict between our ranks is personal, mono-i-mono. There are a lot of Jedi who stand their ground, in spite of the developers decision to severly penaltize them should they loose, and there are plenty of BH's who stick to their ranged platforms and go toe to toe with Jedi despite their own handicap.


In my opinion, had Smuggler and playerbounties been a part of the game to begin with, this war would not have begun. The Bounty Hunters are tired of the Jedi community, who areobvioulsy not goingstopcomplaining about us, no matter howfairor handicapped wefight them. We want a fair fight, fair in the terms of developer consideration.We wantto confront someone on equal ground.Above all, we want a community of player targets with a little morality and common sense, people who want to play the game, not'grind to godliness'.


Anyway, those are my thoughts....




Obo-hi Ilwhai 3/4/4/4 BH, Master Pistoleer, Collector of rare antiquities.

'We will hunt you, we will find you, and we will kill you, because that is what it takes to get paid. You are not a person, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake, you are a paycheck'
Obo-hi
Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:07 am
#41

Hey Hotdog, I agree totally, but would you mind editing your big when?

It's screwing with the board format.





Obo-hi Ilwhai 3/4/4/4 BH, Master Pistoleer, Collector of rare antiquities.

'We will hunt you, we will find you, and we will kill you, because that is what it takes to get paid. You are not a person, you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake, you are a paycheck'
HOTDOG
Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:36 am
#42






Obo-hi wrote:

Hey Hotdog, I agree totally, but would you mind editing your big when?

It's screwing with the board format.









done and done.



I think that once we get our player bounties the Jedi/BH war will die down considerably.


Add in a real GCW and a Hutt faction and this will finally be the game I thought paid (and continue to pay) for.







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LaughingWolf
Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:10 am
#43

Well, SpiningCloud, every suggestions I have seen on this thread mentioned bounties on Smuggler WHEN we can do something to earn it that is not slicing nor spices, sooooo......



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SpinningCloud
Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:16 am
#44

Sooo...like I said "When hell freezes over." Because that's about when we're going to see our infamous Smuggler Revamp.




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CabbageHead
Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:03 pm
#45

I agree with a lot of the ideas here. Having a smuggler mission trigger a BH mission is cool. I think the BH mission should be deleted within a reasonable amout of time after the smugggler finished. The droid idea was cool. I have a half baked idea, that I'm not sure about. It'll probaly get flamed. Maybe only master BHs could hunt us. They are easier to fight then the investigation 3/TKM/Fencer combos. I've seen taht template consisantly wipe out Jedi. They'd rip right through me. I can hold my own against most master BHs. Guess I'm a big wuss. There should be more incentive to master BH, though. Masters should get a def vs. Force and/or Lightsaber. And Jedi should be slightly vulnerable against LLCs and scatters. Bounty Hunter should be the most kick ass fighting prof. OK, I'm rambling. I'm done.



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HOTDOG
Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:57 pm
#46


Yeah, yeah Smuggler Bounties need to happen...


but WHEN!


WHEN, DAMNIT!


/fall to knees

WHEEEEENNNN!!

Message Edited by HOTDOG on 12-24-2004 01:33 AM






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