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Thread: TC Slicing Q&A Thread

Juspar
Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:08 pm
#27

Will SOE push it out with buggy Break percentages?



Increased diversity is good, and so is un-dumming processes. This is very exciting.





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After CU I stuck it out because my guild friends were still here, the good was good enough and the bad could be worked around.
With NGE:
  • My guildies hated it so much they quit
  • They nerfed my uniquness
  • They nerfed my ability to role play
  • They nerfed my strategic combat
  • They disregarded Star Wars canon
  • As a level 80 smuggler, I have out dueled every level and every profession. Only beated since NGE by a level 90 Bounty Hunter.
Ragnaat
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:18 am
#28

Server isn't up yet so no Answeres yet, but i thought ASDE from discussion we needed a quick and dirty, make it as you go along, FAQ for the slice changes.

Please, NO DISCUSSION

Just either post a simple QUESION or a direct ANSWER here.

I'll start by recapping a few questions I've had or seen that I want to try and find out when I can get on later. I'll also try answering the questions myself as long as TC-prime is around, but once the frog server comes its all you guys..

- What Skills / Skill Mods Changed?
Novice Smuggler:
"Slicing: Containers"
"Slicing: Armor +5"
"Slicing: Weapon +5"

Slicing I:Terminals
"Slicing: Armor +10"
"Slicing: Weapon +10"

Slicing II: Weapon Basic
"Slicing: Armor +15"
"Slicing: Weapon +15"

Slicing III: Armor
"Slicing: Armor +20"
"Slicing: Weapon +20"

Slicing IV: Weapon Advanced
"Slicing: Armor +25"
"Slicing: Weapon +25"

Master Smuggler
"Slicing: Armor +25"
"Slicing: Weapon +25"

Totals at Master smuggler of +100 to both types of slicing.

- What Schematics Changed?
Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths still have upgrade kits in their trees, but smuggler no longer has any slice tool schematics.

- Has the dialog window changed in general? ( Mini-game or dialog box?)
Dialogs are similar two before, less wordy though. Just "what do you want to change" type messages.

- Are tools still used for slicing Armor/Weapons
Nope

- If tools are used does quality seem to matter, or just skill?
n/a

How does Container Slicing work now? Did it change?
Containers still have a "slice" menu option, when choosing this option the container opened and the system message "With a click the locking mechanism releases"

- How does Terminal Slicing work now? Did it change?
Although not listed as a granted skill of "Slicing: Terminals" anywhere on my master smuggler i was able to slice a mission terminal via radial wiout any tools and got the system message "You have managed to slice into the terminal. Your next mission reward will be increased.". Refreshing or re-opening resets the mission payouts as it always has, and the same old timer between terminal slces is in effect.

- How Does Base Slicing work now? Did it change?
Like terminal slicing, base slicing is a radial option for an automatci instant slice. No dialog to work through. No reports of failurs have come in yet.

- Do ADKs prevent slice breakage?
No, ADK's do not prevent slice breakage

- Can bio-linked items be sliced - whether they are pending or already bio-linked?

- can a smuggler repair a bio-linked but broken piece of equipment?

- whats the best slice combination to increase DPS?

- Is slice XP being grated still? If so are the gains per slice the same?

More detailed questons:

- Does weapon /armor quality impact slice outcomes
No, just a simple chart of outcomes

- Do all modifiers work, are their benefits visible

- Does the rate of breakage seem to be ok? does it ever happen? does it happen too often?
At this time the breakage rate is WAY too high

- Is the slice process to easy to do in either small orders of a few suits of armor for someone, a crate of weapons, or large bulk orders?
Its not bad, on par with the old system, unless you have to manage a wide variety of slice types in your order.


Anyone else have any direct questions to ask?

Message Edited by Ragnaat on 06-21-2005 05:13 PM

Message Edited by Ragnaat on 06-22-2005 01:57 PM



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Ragnaat
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:24 am
#29

- what is the fate of pre-patch sliced gear? can they be sliced with this new system, or will they remain with their older style % based changes?



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Makris
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:25 am
#30

ragnaat, why must you continue to out-awesome all of us?


Sticky? at least for a while?

Message Edited by Makris on 06-21-2005 02:28 PM

Phizuol
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:25 am
#31

Mini-game or dialog box?




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Eavik
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:26 am
#32

Can bio-linked items be sliced - whether they are pending or already bio-linked?
Fernas
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:29 am
#33

don't know if this has been answered already, didn't see it myself.


Does Smuggler level have any effect? Like number of customization points available or how high you can go?



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Saarek
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:48 am
#34






Fernas wrote:

don't know if this has been answered already, didn't see it myself.


Does Smuggler level have any effect? Like number of customization points available or how high you can go?






Yes it does.


Read the announcement closely - you'll see that you have to take the weapon to a smuggler with a certificaiton of the same or higher slicing level.







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Darth_Maniac
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:37 am
#35

Currently smugglers get lower slices on weapons that are near the speed/damage caps. Is this still the case?




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Wookus
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:14 am
#36

I duno... the whole thing looks a bit sketchy. Yet another kinda good yet somehow half baked idea from SoE.


The breakage thing is my concern. I positively LOVE my pistols. The idea of potentially ruining a favored gun has got me totally turned off to this system. What should I do? Not slice it, and thereby self-nerf it? Why bother slicing a weapon when you can slice a p.o.s. one and put it on the same level as the unsliced high end one? What about some of the pistols I've been using for months on end that are unslicable (read: NERFED) under the new system: quest rewards, items made by old, retired friends, etc. I'd hate for my "Dirty Hairy" DE-10 to become nothing more than an amusing museum piece.


**I also haven't heard anything about "diminishing returns". Is it going to be one of these things where a high end loot item gets a smaller slice than a noob one in the dubious efforttowards "game balance"?


I agree there should be consequences to using sliced equipment, but the whle point is THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ILLEGAL. I'm a reb with Persuasion 1, and I had a SQUAD of stormtroopers tell me "Just don't flash it around".


HUH?!?!


Put the consequences into the lockdown and crackdown parts of the GCW where THEY RIGHTLY BELONG!!!!


If thats not enough, anyone who has ever handled a firearm for any extended period of time knows that ANYTHING can go wrong, especially with more "advanced" weapons. Jams (loss of attack action), mis-fires (maybe an AoE... we ALL hate when people AoE inappropriately), BACKFIRES (duh... you hit yourself), etc. I think adding THESE in would be a BLAST!!! And to top it off, it might force parties to tell people to put their nasty little toys away and use a different one. Hmmmmm.....


In an IDEAL system, this system would be great for slicing some of the optional parts that go into weapon crafting, scopes, grips, etc.


As to the whiny Jedi...I'm working toward the unlock, and when I get it I'll be making a very tough decision... Can i fit some Jedi Skills onto my template (and risk gettingowned by every BHunder the sun... but the character i would most love to role play nonetheless) or shouldI keep smuggler and re-grind jedi on my unlocked character slot. So that should shut down your "saber envy" comments right there. Someone told me that they were pretty sure Lightsabers are unslicable. If this is, in fact, the case, come talk to us when they are. See how quick you cry for a nerf of the new system when your precious little "farmboy-wannabe" glowstick malfunctions in the middle of PvP. Actually, come find me personally so I can laugh in your face.



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rogue_eight
Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:51 am
#37

Is retuning still part of slicing or do things now just break and you have to get a new weapon and reslice?
AngusMacGregor
Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:01 am
#38






rogue_eight wrote:
Is retuning still part of slicing or do things now just break and you have to get a new weapon and reslice?





Ok... I'll explain it one more time, but that's it.


The weapon "breaking" that you are hearing about is the exact same thing as "retuning". It doesn't ruin your weapon, and as soon as it's repaired after "breaking", you can use it all over again.


On TC it's really really buggy right now, because it is ruining weapons. But that'll get fixed.





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Grati
Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:01 am
#39

Sounds kewl. Can't wait for live. Hoping they don't push it too fast.


Although I have a good feeling about this patch, since it isn't supposed to go live for at least a week, they have time to prepare and fix bugs associated with the slicing game. Lets all cross our fingers.





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