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Thread: Can we *please* stop hijacking threads?

SmugglinZane
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:01 pm
#27

Once again, I find the newcomer to be rather funny. You see, he's guilty of the one thing he's accusing us of. He is blinded by what he wants to see. I only know of 1 case of someone posting something irrelevant to the post.


The posts yesterday and today with regards to the space missions did nothing to hijack the threads. They stated a perceived/potential problem a customer had with this feature. The persons guilty of hijacking thethread IMO were the ones (people that seem to be of the same opinion as this thread starter) were the ones who did not want to let a player voice his problems/opinions.


Let me put it to you this way Jake. Although this does not impact you, THIS IS A COMPLETE DISGRACE AND INSULT TO THE SMUGGLER COMMUNITY. That should be reason enough for someone to post their feelings in those other threads. I understand you may not see it, and I respect your choice to disagree... but riddle me this... If the changes did not impact, and the other players had no input whatsoever other than to attack the smuggler posting in those threads, what were they doing there? Once again, I ask who was really hijacking that thread?


I think you got your blasters pointed at the wrong group here. I know I'm biased, but I've kept my opinions off those posts. If this is the blindness and ignorancethat other players are going to treat us with, then I guess I'm gonna be forced to start posting there to try and explain it to them to.


Zane



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
maxtheusher
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:11 pm
#28


Okay now that I've had my pirate fun...


Jedi cannot whine. They do, but they shouldn't. Their prof gets made continually better and easier to be than was ORIGINALLY PLANNED. Ours, has never been what was originally planned, and the only thing they've done is make our profession worse. They have promised a solution to our problem since before the game came out. We are really the only prof that has a full and total right to be heard by the devs.


The reason it comes off like whining and forum hijacking is because you've seen it SO MUCH. Our pleas have gone out for almost a year and a half now. In order for the devs to know this is still important, we can't just suddenly shut our collective mouth. Then the devs will go, "HMMMMM, they've stopped complaining, maybe before we fix their profession we should investigate whether it's still warranted." Only they'd say it in DevSpeak, which is alot like NewSpeak, but with words that spontaneously change meaning without any notice.



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Saabotage
Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:24 am
#29

ARRRRhhh!!!!!


Shivel me timbers!!! <--- off topic again :-P



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Jake-MP
Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:40 am
#30

As much as I hate to revive a thead that's been dead for about 2 weeks now, I somehow feel the need to respond. I would have done so sooner, but my Internet connection has been down for quite some time. I don't intend to respond to individuals, but rather just the general tone.

First of all, I apologize for the harsh tone of my initial message. It was not intended to be a rebuke, but I understand how it could come across as such.

One person asked how I could condem the "Can you swing over to the Smuggler board" messages but at the same time suggest that a friendly reminder is appropriate. While those statements are their own are certainly contridictory, I think in full context it was at least semi-clear. Especially after my third post where I suggested that things like that be placed in a .sig. What I condemed (really harsh word, but I suppose it's what I did ) is posts who's sole purpose is a statement like that when the thread they're posted in has nothing to do with Smugglers.

Others posted with statements suggesting that the discussion was good even though they didn't agree with my tone. Most (perhaps even all) disagreed with pretty much everything I said, though that really isn't suprising .

And one person (sorry, I'm too lazy to even click the back button and see who it was) even asked if I thought their signature was appropriate. I'd say yes. It's got a splash of color to draw a person in, but it's not overdone. It's at the bottom of an intelligent and on topic post. The only thing wrong (by my "standards" is that you reffered to your signature in the post .

Anyway, I don't think that I have anything more to add, I just didn't want people to think that I was outright ignoring them because they disagreed with me.
Jake-MP
Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:09 am
#31

OK, one more thing... Datink_Nieleft summed up a lot of things and said it much better and more tactfully than I in his letter.
Kelko
Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:58 am
#32

FREEZE EVERYONE, THIS IS A HIJACKING! I'M TAKING THIS THREAD TO CUBA! NO ONE GIVE ME ANY TROUBLE AND NO ONE GETS HURT!



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Datink_Nieleft
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:37 am
#33






Jake-MP wrote:
OK, one more thing... Datink_Nieleft summed up a lot of things and said it much better and more tactfully than I in his letter.






The more people turn against us, the less support we will get. We will become the "new jedi" in terms of "whining". I agree with your points jake, maybe if put a little lighter you would have gotten a more favorable response (that and putting up your Smuggler Icon, just something I've noticed as of late regarding posts here).


However, as much as we ask for civility from our profession mates, as time goes on and we recieve no communication aimed at our profession it will become harder for some to maintain. As I said in my post, you beat the dog too much and you might just get bit.Best we can do, those of us with the patience despite what has happened, is to post positive, strong, and civil.


Your idea about the signatures is a good one. It draws attention without hijacking threads unrelated to our plight.


At anyrate, I 5-starred your posts Jake. I have said it before, and I will say it again - just because someones opinion differs from yours, its not a real good reason to 1-star them. Dat made a good point that its exactly those types of topics that get us to think and discuss, ultimately unifying and strengthening our community.


The general feeling of the CU for Smuggler seems to be a good one (from what we can gather without breaking the NDA). I think that as soon as it is done we will see marked improvements in our profession. After, I am thinking that we are on top of the heap to recieve addtional work on our non-combat related trees.


If not, I fear the results coming from this profession. The dam will break, and it will be a flood of emotion. And no amount of pleading will stop the rush of rabid postings.


Oh...and Yarrrr!!!

Message Edited by Datink_Nieleft on 12-06-2004 03:07 AM



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